India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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Akhand bharat is not about bringing porkies to indian jurisdiction ,it is about land , they are liability and threat if taken in , we csn easily capture their land after they start infighting , they will be hounded , remaining is Bangladesh , this will be a much bigger issue in future , they are drying up fast , they are reproducing faster than they can afford .
Bangladesh has lower tfr than us according to official reports atleast.
 

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Namaste bhrata.

What's this peace agreement hippie soy boy bovine faecal material?
I haven't been reading much news recently. Do you think India will stick to it? I don't see the point. Pakistan should be forced to spend more money into it's military so other sectors collapse and we can see widespread riots, insurgencies, secession and all those nice things.

This is the prime time to start salami slicing westwards.

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Well.. both US and Pakistan, want US to have a nominal presence in Afghanistan forever.. this requires us to make some token gestures sometimes.. But, hey India scrapped Article 370, and granted domicile to a ton load of people who had no hope of getting a state residency certificate..
 

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Newest peace moves at the behest of Pakistan at LOC had only two motives. First the Pakistanis got scarred of Indian power against the Chinese which forced them to retreat with huge loss of prestige. Second, the Pakistanis wished this peace initiative declared before the FATF meeting in Paris. For the second, India had just the opposite objective that is that if any peace initiative has to be declared then it is after the Paris meeting. That objective has been met handsomely. Regarding the first, the Indian military power shown to the Chinese has also scared the Pakistanis. Before that Pakistanis were going around the world telling the world that Hindu India is no match to aggressive Muslim in Pakistan. That was also laid to rest when India confronted head on Chinese with will of iron and wrist of steel..... Well India has an upper hand in both cases and India could dictate terms. It really happened, at LOC. Peace was initiated on Indian terms.

Other factors which played its role is new US President’s attitude. He has not said anything. He is too old to over work himself and make rapid intent declarations. Thru his advisor he is making it known that China is a menace and trying to split the world on old Cold War lines. This Chinese influence peddling is directly visible in Pakistan. In last ten years the Chinese have poured billions in Pakistan. It is unsuccessful. Pakistan wish to go back into American influence and dump China. The $60 billion road network loan is standing in the way. This US cannot do anything. Hence even if Pakistan wishes to get out of China influence, it cannot. Hence chicken or the egg situation.

Most other large economies in Indians Ocean regions have cancelled Chinese funded road projects. These are expensive and loans will make them dependent also interests @ 6% has to be paid, hence expensive. Other small countries are still Chinese dependent. Sooner or later they will be asking US to bail them out. That is the time to cut Chinese influence peddling. It will prevent escalated US - Chinese Cold War.

India is walking away from socialism more rapidly now than in last 20 years. Private sector is being encouraged. The last budget was a sample of that. Indian development, post pandemic is going to be 8-9%, which will be greater than Chinese. For the latter export market is a bit hesitant. Everybody blames Chinese for the virus and dislocation. Chinese resent it but their resentment is of no value. Businesses are thinking twice before placing orders in China. With India, Bangladesh, Vietnam emerging as new manufacturing sites, Chinese decline is nothing but evident.

Let us hope, Pakistanis behave at LOC and Biden limits spread of Chinese influence peddling in Indian Ocean Region. India can help.

Cheers......
 

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But what about the present people , they are already much dense , they lie on swamps , one tsunami and they will lose a lot of area
It's hard for a people with low tfr to raise to a high level on demand and I don't think the memes flowing in the Bengali mindspace are strong enough to encourage a birth explosion.their current environmental and economic scenario will also not promote this.if Bangladesh has a literal Afghan like culture now and also a high tfr,then I can see how it can be sustained.

Since they are at replacement fertility and currently might have even dipped below that,I think their pop would stabilize.we just have to make sure to manage the border and push back the illegals with whatever means possible.
 

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It's hard for a people with low tfr to raise to a high level on demand and I don't think the memes flowing in the Bengali mindspace are strong enough to encourage a birth explosion.their current environmental and economic scenario will also not promote this.if Bangladesh has a literal Afghan like culture now and also a high tfr,then I can see how it can be sustained.

Since they are at replacement fertility and currently might have even dipped below that,I think their pop would stabilize.we just have to make sure to manage the border and push back the illegals with whatever means possible.
Bangladeshis have a history of jumping borders when they have some shit like the rohingya shits who jumped to myanmar in 19th and 20thcentury claim they have been there for 1000 of years .all bangladeshis should be shot and border should be filled with land mines in the future.
 

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The bengali issue is already happening even in my state there are a lot of north indian guys who come to work here and earn a living and help my state but recently a lot of bangladeshis have been captured doing illegal activities.if they can come even to the south and does nefarious activities and also put collective villainry to innocent north indian workers
 

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Yes he is rock solid in giving free aid to porkis just like Obama administration free fighter aircraft ,AAM missiles and helicopter were gifted to porkis out of no reason.
Obama was in favour g2 agreement with china. It's was mostly Trump initiative for quad.
He's an American, their interests are what he's concerned with. Senators only work the President's foreign policy, not their own. Quad was Abe's doing. Obama did a lot of work with Modi but Modi was hesitant to go full hog. MMS didn't even work with Obama on closer ties, such were the pressures. If the relationship is closer now, its because circumstances have changed India's position with China.

It was Bush who gave the Pakistanis the tag of non NATO ally, Obama ramped up the drone strikes ending with a SEAL raid. Let's not make up history too much.

As for Obama wanting a G2, let's be realistic Till last year, Modi was costing up to Xi, no reason to expect others to do what we weren't. Pretty similar to asking the US to tag Pakistan as a terrorist nation while we play footsie on and off with them.
 

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Yes, shocking indeed.

A Havildar will never have access to these kinds of differnet layered information.

There is a ring of people with higher access passing out this information OR Havildar is an ace hacker who got access to our systems via various ways.

Is there capital punishment via court marshal?
There is a chance that he was under watch for some time and we could have fed the enemy the wrong info or the info that our counter deparment would want the enemy to have. Usually these kind of inquiry to top level which is kept compartmentalised cannot go unnoticed.
 

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:notsure: NSA met in third country??


Porki NSA Moeed Yousif called NSA Ajit Doval to talk about peace after India broke the back of the porkis in Balochistan and Pashtunistan. Like what many people in the thread said burning porkis in the west makes them run for peace in the East.
 
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Yes, shocking indeed.

A Havildar will never have access to these kinds of differnet layered information.

There is a ring of people with higher access passing out this information OR Havildar is an ace hacker who got access to our systems via various ways.

Is there capital punishment via court marshal?
It’s not just the Havildar there are bigger fishes playing here and they need to be fried. If what you can understand from retired army members like Pravin Swahney and Ajai Shukla. There many hidden anti-National Pro-Porki and Chinese sympathizers in the Armed Forces. It is my opinion that this Havildar was nothing more than pawn in the hands some higher up Anti-National. A Havildar can never have access to this much layered information.
 
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‘Bandar mara gaya’: 15 min after missiles struck Balakot, a phone call in Delhi

At 3.45am on February 26, 2019, the then Air Chief BS Dhanoa made a telephone call to National Security Adviser Ajit Doval on a special RAX number. RAX is an ultra-secure fixed-line network.

“The monkey has been killed,” he said in Hindi. “Bandar mara gaya.”

The message meant that the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) terrorist training camp at Balakot in hinterland Pakistan had been taken down by Indian fighter jets in a daring pre-dawn operation across the border.

Dhanoa made similar calls to then Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman and Secretary (Research and Analysis Wing) Anil Dhasmana.

NSA Doval, in turn, informed Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

 

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what the hell did biden do to bring this about? it was because of trump that we showed restraint in the aftermath of Balakot and who wanted to pull the rug out from under Pakistan by wanting a complete troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.
 

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Does anyone think is there any relation between the data leak and new peace talks? :notsure:
It is Pakistan that called Indian DGMO. Going by other accounts the back channel talks have been happening for a while now.

All the routines, deployments, maps, grids will be changed. The rotation in any case happens regularly. The issue would have been serious during war time. Even in that case set backs in certain zones can be recovered by dominating other zones.

Our strike rate of catching spies is quite high. OTOH we hardly hear Indian spies getting caught by Pakistan that much.
 

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Does anyone think is there any relation between the data leak and new peace talks? :notsure:
No. As per reports, he was under the scanner for some time.


what the hell did biden do to bring this about? it was because of trump that we showed restraint in the aftermath of Balakot and who wanted to pull the rug out from under Pakistan by wanting a complete troop withdrawal from Afghanistan.
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