India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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BabaKhalbali

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I strongly condemn the cowardly attack on our jawans.
But some realities have to be understood.
It is almost impossible to prevent each and every attack by an enemy or terrorist group.
As a former UK Prime Minister said
'We. have to succeed every time but the terrorists have to succeed only once'
This was mentioned in respect to the Irish Republican Army attacks.
So some attacks will happen in spite of our best efforts.

No need to get hysterical. Even the Israelis cannot prevent every attack.
Neither could even the superpowers. Both the US and Russia have suffered terror attacks. Happened on their own territory.
But prepare for our response. Think about how we will hit back.
The costs for the enemy has to be raised.

So let us debate on the punishment we meet out to Pakistan.
No visas for Paki cricketers during the world cup
 

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No they are "making" another UCAV under Project Azm.
Project Azm is designing a long-range endurance MALE UAV drone not a UCAV which they are already assembling with Chinese CKD kits.

By the way, the programs under Project Azm are:
  1. Next-generation fighter jet (FGFA)
  2. Long-range endurance MALE UAV drone
  3. High speed targeting drone
  4. AESA radar
  5. Digital flight control system
  6. Manufacturing of aircraft components
  7. Integrated vehicle health monitoring system
 

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They are armed to the teeth

And now we have China parked on the LAC


Now is not the time to talk about it but we should have given Pakistan a Kashmir valley full of Muslim decades ago and made peace

This hostility has cost India control of South Asia, it hasn't cost Pakistan anything, it infact has made them a nuclear power and military power and independent of India

If anyone really wants to have this conversation, we can but you guys don't listen
Pakis will be sent to stone age and decimated from very existence before that happens, Kashmir valley, POK even belongs to India, here's what will happen 900k KP will settle in Kashmir, kashmiri Muslims themselves will welcome them, and Pakistan will be destroyed and baluchistan will be free. Now hop on inbred.
 

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They are armed to the teeth

And now we have China parked on the LAC


Now is not the time to talk about it but we should have given Pakistan a Kashmir valley full of Muslim decades ago and made peace

This hostility has cost India control of South Asia, it hasn't cost Pakistan anything, it infact has made them a nuclear power and military power and independent of India

If anyone really wants to have this conversation, we can but you guys don't listen
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Now is not the time to talk about it but we should have given Pakistan a Kashmir valley full of Muslim decades ago and made
Tomorrow they will ask for Delhi you will give them Delhi too for peace? They have multiple times launched a assault to capture rajasthan punjab we should give them that as well soon they will claim tamil nadu too 😂
This hostility has cost India control of South Asia, it hasn't cost Pakistan anything, it infact has made them a nuclear power and military power and independent of India
Control of SEA is made from Naval strength and basically military strength our capabilities have only increased after these crisis. We not only have ICBM capabilities we have Nukes subs too and that too in multiple numbers armed with nuclear tip missiles which give us a capability which only 5 nations have.
Pakistan on the other hand is having green Chinese painted missile.

The late Mr. Bhutto, who fathered Pakistan's nuclear program then told his people: “If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass or leaves, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own. ( they are just making this statement a reality imran and bajwa ass are still hurting after the pounding which they received in return of bheek.)
 

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Yes you are right we can debate till eternity. A common city dweller thinks russia and israel are strong countries despite being unknown to their equipments and mission. How come?

Yes soldier's life is cheap and pebble if belongs to TA or paramilitary. Terrorism can be intimation but if not responded then it proves a jihadi can devise a better plan than those UPSC elites.

Every international policy is far sighted, sluggish, defensive and reactive in nature. With this attitude we may win a situation which was persistent from last may decades but with lots of suffering.
 

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I strongly condemn the cowardly attack on our jawans.
But some realities have to be understood.
It is almost impossible to prevent each and every attack by an enemy or terrorist group.
As a former UK Prime Minister said
'We. have to succeed every time but the terrorists have to succeed only once'
This was mentioned in respect to the Irish Republican Army attacks.
So some attacks will happen in spite of our best efforts.

No need to get hysterical. Even the Israelis cannot prevent every attack.
Neither could even the superpowers. Both the US and Russia have suffered terror attacks. Happened on their own territory.
But prepare for our response. Think about how we will hit back.
The costs for the enemy has to be raised.

So let us debate on the punishment we meet out to Pakistan.
Fix of violence is violence. There is no substitute of it. Learn how power differential work and how a state must ligetimise voilence to keep the order.

The game is not about how to bring down attacks to ‘zero’ but how to out-attack each other and keep doing it by gradually increasing or adjusting the sting; better outmatched.

It is called investment in offensive methods which not only addresses war making tactical hardware but grooming of the population to keep participating in it.

Investment in maintaining a robust Deterrence do play an important part to afford luxury like strategic restraint but not failing it by showing compulsive lack of intent not only gives wrong signaling and increase the chances of attacks by an over confident enemy but also demoralise security establishment and then population.

Once you increase your strategic threshold and lock your deterrence in a proverbial ‘no first use’ locker; the tactical, asymmetric warfare becomes a must to handle rogue nations like Pakistan and China. With China we are still very cautiously almost negligible matching to their sub-strategic interferences. On Pakistan we must go like an enraged trampling Elephant who is roaring them them start an all out war.
 
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Loitering attack Drones are overrated. They won’t survive highly contested charging or manoeuvring armoured + infantry battlefield.
No they are the most advanced tech and game changer weapon. It is made for strategic use instead of tactical use. Azerbaijan used it to destroy Armenian SAMs and left the exposed Armenian armour under the firepower of Bayraktar UCAV.

We can take out Pakistani and Chinese SAMs with such munitions and rest can be taken out in huge numbers by UCAVs.
 

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Its time for us to actually use our intelligence agencies. They made that Col. Rajesh meme then its time for us to make that a reality. Let us give them real taste of Col. Rajesh ki Sazzish. We should aid Baloch rebellion and porkis who are pissed with CPEC. Its time for us to give porkistan the taste of their own medicine.
Agent Vinod aur Col Rajesh same hain.:cruisin2:
 

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No they are the most advanced tech and game changer weapon. It is made for strategic use instead of tactical use. Azerbaijan used it to destroy Armenian SAMs and left the exposed Armenian armour under the firepower of Bayraktar UCAV.

We can take out Pakistani and Chinese SAMs with such munitions and rest can be taken out in huge numbers by UCAVs.
These examples are very economical to give a true idea how modern warfare between two at par states will unfold.
 
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