India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[BangaliBabu]

Members of this forum, I think, don't lack the knowledge of better terminology for their fellows. Let's be more considerate on a public forum........

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Seriously is this true? Vats Rohit is reliable guy though.

VatsRohit on Twitter

“Dear @adgpi - This handle @ReconDivision is carrying images of the dead-bodies of Indian soldiers killed in #HandwaraEncounter from WITHIN the army hospital. How are such sensitive images making it out to social media? Please ensure troops are not allowed to click such pics.”

tinyurl.com

If true then how are paki accounts accessing such pics?

They were leaked by local Kashmiri “journalist” From inside the Base Hospital.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

We can only hope that there will be blood on other the side. Pounding them for couple of days won't do much damage. Hitting them at Pindi would

Lol india have sufficient capabilities to capture Pakistan.
But can politicians allow total military actions? And provide funding according to needs?
Infact we did that in 1965 and in 1971.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Its Easy to take Pak Punjab than Pok unless You are not Ready For Major Collateral damage
So Taking Pok Is Out of Picture.Skardu Might be Option

Indian Army More than Prepared For War
This Is Unconventional war You can Fight by Using Fringe Elements And choas Inside Pakistan

This is what we lack. Pakis shit in their pants fearing to lose Punjab. Whenever hostilities broke out pakis first outcry is Sialkot sector
We have to induce pain in Sialkot sector or on IB in Punjab region like they do in LoC.

 

[Roshan]

As the inputs are coming in things are becoming clear and clearer ......

* On 28 Apr the unit receives information of movement of terrorists in Rajwar Forests.

* On 01 May first contact established - one terrorist gets injured but they all manage to enter adjoining habitation and take eleven civilians as hostage.

* On the night of 01/ 02 May contact against established. Terrorists fire from a cowshed. No firing from the adjoining houses. The weather gets pretty bad during the night but the operation is in progress with firefights. Two terrorists get killed in the cowshed/

* Some terrorists enter the adjoining house and take hostage of four civilians there.
* As is usual, a search of adjoining areas is ordered in the morning. CO and his team enter the house adjoining the cowshed.
*
There are terrorists inside the house and the team of five led by the CO gets martyrdom.

What is callous about it? Where is the scope for such witch-hunting ??

Only at the stage of entry - the CO should have caught some civilians and make them enter the house ahead of himself ?? However, since the firefight was on throughout the night, civilians would have definitely run away from adjoining areas.

we need to rethink the whole RoE when dealing with terrorists. like the swarajya article pointed out in anti terror operations you cannot have 0 collateral damage. Not at the risk of senior officers, its another thing that we should maybe equip them with better gear and use drones etc.

 

[captscooby81]

I don't know what to say seeing the kind of ranting i am seeing here. All i can say is if you guys would have been in forum at time of kargil your brains would have blow out by your so much overthinking . As a young college goer at time of kargil i was also feeling same every day seeing news of our soldiers death going and trying to get glimpse of their funeral live almost equally frustrated like you guys . But sadly not so much free ranting options those days so just discuss with friends and move on rather lecturing how the forces should fight a war or why is our forces loosing so many .

Let the people who have their job on hand do what they feel best . Lets keep our expertise to our limited knowledge and stop questioning why this why that .

 

[Bhadra]

Nonsense don't bullshit here I will suggest all I want this is an open forum and I have the permission to post my views.

I have raised a proper concern but your inability to handle criticism and jumping on anyone who as much as points a finger towards the army tells a lot about you.

I will question all I want this is a free country.

I am not suggesting any thing its a fact they dont have drones its a fact that they dont have enough night vision sets.

Yea everyone extracts from government thats how the country runs most countries ae that way whats your point.

Atleast try and answer logically instead of just jumping on anyone because it hurts your pride.

Do not compare a force of just a hundred with that of 14 million... I think your basics would permit that...

 

[WARREN SS]

This is what we lack. Pakis shit in their pants fearing to lose Punjab. Whenever hostilities broke out pakis first outcry is Sialkot sector
We have to induce pain in Sialkot sector or on IB in Punjab region like they do in LoC.

Why Do you think They Don't Think About military bravado Like Kagil Or 65 Now
They Know what Will are Mechanized Infantry And Strike corps Will unleash on Lahore

 

[Knowitall]

Do not compare a force of just a hundred with that of 14 million... I think your basics would permit that...

I didnt get you could you elaborate ?

 

[captscooby81]

True when ever we are close to pakijabi they raise their white flag and call for truce . Punjab is their jugular vein wasting time in pok will not fetch anything one pierce into pakjabi they will start loosing their mental peace . Reasons why they keep all their best weapons to protect this region including the latest deployment LY-80 AD near lahore

This is what we lack. Pakis shit in their pants fearing to lose Punjab. Whenever hostilities broke out pakis first outcry is Sialkot sector
We have to induce pain in Sialkot sector or on IB in Punjab region like they do in LoC.

 

[Hellfire]

we need to rethink the whole RoE when dealing with terrorists. like the swarajya article pointed out in anti terror operations you cannot have 0 collateral damage. Not at the risk of senior officers, its another thing that we should maybe equip them with better gear and use drones etc.

There is an adage. You kill 1 insurgent, another will take place. But if you kill an innocent in a counter insurgency, 10 will take the place

Why do you think we have not had a single aircraft targeted by MANPADS (in 90s Mig 29s used to escort Indian Airlines flights into Srinagar)? Is it because the militants don't have access to MANPADS?

 

[Gandaberunda]

Why Do you think They Don't Think About military bravado Like Kagil Or 65 Now
They Know what Will are Mechanized Infantry And Strike corps Will unleash on Lahore

The point is why aren't we thinking to do 65 now?
Open the front and finish them. We can have huge leverage over pakis just touching IB in Sialkot sector

 

[Hellfire]

Why Do you think They Don't Think About military bravado Like Kagil Or 65 Now
They Know what Will are Mechanized Infantry And Strike corps Will unleash on Lahore

Wishful thinking

 

[Hellfire]

The point is why aren't we thinking to do 65 now?
Open the front and finish them. We can have huge leverage over pakis just touching IB in Sialkot sector

With what aim?
What intent?
And what exit strategy?

 

[Hellfire]

One thing for sure post the Handwara, the Paks have excellent knowledge of Indian army Counter terror operations. They exploited the trust factor and general goodwill that Indian Army has for the safety of kashmir civilians and weaponizing it against us.


The only way the CO, the major and the small team walked into the trap is because of the trust factor. The area/house must have been declared sanitized. The militants cud have hid inside and fed false intel to lure the officers into an area where they must have felt secure

Incorrect assessment.

The only way they would have walked in would have been if someone must have offered to surrendered and the others must have laid in wait for ambush. In such a situation, you move with bare minimum numbers to facilitate a surrender.

Old technique. Not the first time it has been used.

If anyone has any clue how CO moves, they will know what precisely happened here.

 

[Ar3mis]

Hello all,
Finally, the confirmation email feature worked after being on this site for almost 2 years so I am able to type now. Based on Modi's twitter post not sure if we are thinking of stern action. I guess time will tell. Still feel that we missed an opportunity last February of going over the threshold and making it hurt for the TNP. Hope this time we get the chance to do that.

As I read on someone's twitter timeline, this won't stop in Kashmir but only in Rawalpindi. Not sure if we are ready for that yet though for myriad reasons which are not clear to me either.

 

[aghamarshana]

Bakis back to CFV mode. We are replying in kind.

 

[aarav]

Kashmiri are not indian ,those who are pro india is because of monetary benefits,we need to understand that until & unless you change the demographics of the valley ,you will be lead to traps like these same thing also happened in 2015 to another high ranking officer if I am not wrong,before the 90s ISI lead hizbul to create a hit list of kashmiri pandits to be massacred & targeted killings lead to migration as ISI believed kashmiri pandits were eyes & ears of indian army but our 'secular' army started recruiting kashmiri muslims many of whom have joined the enemy ranks latest was mir idrees sultan of JAKLI regiment who joined hizbul after 2 to 3 years in army & J&K police personnel are even worse than this,you know why Xinjiang is peaceful now because Uighurs are now minority & Hans the majority

 

[Hellfire]

What Baba could be referring to??
This time something new. No Airstrikes. No Surgical Strikes. Let them guess.

जय भगवान कटासराज। जय माता खीर भवानी।

#Handwara
#PakistanMaangeWar https://t.co/MIXPdmrQH2

Nothing. Stop wondering on innocuous random statements. Take it as seriously as capture of 'Akhnoor Dagger'

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Why Do you think They Don't Think About military bravado Like Kagil Or 65 Now
They Know what Will are Mechanized Infantry And Strike corps Will unleash on Lahore

Pakis know that unconventional warfare does more damage to India than conventional war were they will surely lose. The Porkis are in perfect position to conduct unconventional Jihadi war against India. Porkis have all necessary tools for this as well. They got the Nuclear Umberalla to hide behind in case of retaliation, Willing recruits by thousands who wants to die for Aloha and kill the Non-Muslims, the perfect system of jihadi training camps to train all of them and in the end a perfect Genocidal cult/“Religion” to rally behind on. Porkis aren’t stupid enough to start war with India and get massacred they know they will get more results with 1,000 Cuts of Jihad against India. I still see Idiotic Indians on SM and other media platforms who wants to have “friendships” with Pakis and one day visit them shit like that. Which just baffles me to the core. Truly Sad.