India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[WARREN SS]

Such Sheer Waste of Talent

What Would This Young Major had achieved in Future

Experience of CO of RR added Potent asset in Future of Army command

 

[Mikel]

Good thread. Posting a few of the tweets

 

[Mikel]

It's a shame that it's still standing

 

[Knowitall]

I just remembered that nsg had procured these very small handheld drones.

Black hornet

Eye in the sky: NSG acquires Black Hornet Nano – world's smallest spy cam UAV

India’s elite Special Forces unit National Security Guard has acquired Black Hornet Nano helicopters from FLIR Systems meant for providing reconnaissance capability to the ground troops.

www.timesnownews.com

So nsg brought this for themselves but the army which is doing room clearing ops regularly didn't
What kind of nonsense is this.

If you don't want to buy proper hear atleast buy such things which are a literall necessity considering the conditions the army is working in.

One of this drone could have saved all 5 of them today.

 

[WARREN SS]

Good thread. Posting a few of the tweets

Many CO's (BAR SF) are already passed there Prime Years And This is Major difference btw Why Commissioned officers Can Serve Upto 60 years
And other Ranks retire in Late 30's and Forties

 

[Srinivas_K]

My analysis holds true then. Simply stop ration and food supply and raid every household there. Mix their oil, wheat, rice on the floor and make them cry. Treat the entire area like a den of n-igg-ers, stop and search, et all.

Enraging kashmiri people will only make things worse, there is never a shortage of martyrs.

kashmir is an industry for Pakistani army with out this issue, Pakistani army has no reason to exist in their country like they do now. A rich army with poor populace.

Modi Govt. actually hit them hard in Aug 5th 2019, They whined on every international platform, now when they got the chance they are back to terrorism.

The solution is not there in Kashmir, the solution is hitting the GHQ Pakistan establishment where it hurts them very badly. Putting them under pressure, making sure each passing day is a night mare and hell for them.

On ground workers, sentiments and sympathy of people towards terrorists is over hyped. No one wants their homes to be destroyed or put their women and children in Danger, They do that under black mail which leaves them no option.

 

[aarav]

I just remembered that nsg had procured those very small handheld drones.

Black hornet

Eye in the sky: NSG acquires Black Hornet Nano – world's smallest spy cam UAV

India’s elite Special Forces unit National Security Guard has acquired Black Hornet Nano helicopters from FLIR Systems meant for providing reconnaissance capability to the ground troops.

www.timesnownews.com

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So nsg brought this for themselves but the army which is doing room clearing ops regularly didn't
What kind of nonsense is this.

If you don't want to buy proper hear atleast buy such things which are a literall necessity considering the conditions the army is working in.

One of this drone could have saved all 5 of them today.

Govt wanted to.Induct NSG in Kashmir but becuase turf wars it only remains to training J&K police & CRPF .

 

[Bhadra]

Army did handover bakistan a propaganda victory ,why is a sub inspector with RR is really a mystery ,how is he in the room intervention team & not another RR person,first the Para battle casualty & then this surely questions will be asked & that of NSG which was denied a chance should have been inducted by Govt rather than being indulged in petty turf wars which our armed forces does ,Keeping NSG not in Kashmir when they are trained for this situation is also one of mysteries of indian armed forces that only they can tell

All questions arising out of sheer ignorance. abject lack of knowledge and no experience.

A sub-inspector of JKP with CO is natural as most of the joint operations are conducted by Army and SOG together. In CT operations it is always better to keep police guys with you so that false allegations of HR violations, theft, and harassment can be denied having a police representative with you. Whenever an operation is conducted based on information of police / SOG, their representative is always there to handle his sources as also identify the black.

JKP and SOG people always wish to be part of Army operations so that they get credit for it. The boys are mostly on the temporary post and they wish to get permanent posts and officers' promotions are largely dependent on their success in operations.

About NSG - ask if they are under Army or some Police Officer? Where are they and who is responsible for their employment?? What makes you use big words like "Turf War" etc? Do not shoot arrows in the empty sky.

 

[Bhadra]

Did Officers Didn't Served there part Of Ops in their Service years Has his Subordinates Don't know that
Why Will they even ask This question From There senior officers

Never seen such things in other millilitres

Why Would They ask such question From a professional Experienced CO
Isn't They are the one Who Appointed Him For command in First place

Military command In all previous wars Asked CO's of Many units Many Times to Vacate there Post as a Part of operational Strategy in An event of Impending Enemy attack it was Always Commanders choice

Shaitan Singh Made same choice So was Arun ketrapal But even if they might Disbanded from there Post they Will never termed as Cowards in military doctrine.

I did mention in my post that folks like you will never ever understand it..... so let it be there.

 

[LurkerBaba]

"Our soldiers went in to save civilians who claimed that they were held hostage by militants at Handwara Encounter. Hearing from multiple people that it was actually an elaborate trap set up for our army. The entrapped civilians were actually collaborators."

 

[Brood Father]

Abh to Modi ji n bhi comment kr diye h i expect a 100% strong action against napaks.

Let's not put a lot of confidence in Namo now. He is under pressure due to corona shit and Kashmir has now gone into back burner.
We have to accept this casualty and we cannot do anything but wait for the right time.

 

[Bhadra]

Many CO's (BAR SF) are already passed there Prime Years And This is Major difference btw Why Commissioned officers Can Serve Upto 60 years
And other Ranks retire in Late 30's and Forties

you do not know zilch about the Army and still keep coming out with all non-sensical facts. Not a single statement you made is true and you masquerade here as an expert with all your cock and bull hearsay.

That is abject dishonesty and deliberate slurring idiotic activity.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

I think it was neither Hostage situation nor Room intervention.

Most likely CO went to meet someone in village leaving behind his Unit. That's why he got trapped & out of touch from his soldiers. He may have been trying to persuade villagers to give up the terrorists but it did not work.

The odd thing is that no villager died, so I think that they were trapped during talks, killed. Then the collaborating villagers ran away.

 

[Bhadra]

Let's not put a lot of confidence in Namo now. He is under pressure due to corona shit and Kashmir has now gone into back burner.
We have to accept this casualty and we cannot do anything but wait for the right time.

Good Jio, one reverse and you have reached Namo. That is good progress......
What will happen if there is a war tomorrow?

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Let's not put a lot of confidence in Namo now. He is under pressure due to corona shit and Kashmir has now gone into back burner.
We have to accept this casualty and we cannot do anything but wait for the right time.

India is not going to be on the back foot .
It's only because of Modi order big guns scream at loc.

 

[Jailor]

Our soldiers went in to save civilians who claimed that they were held hostage by militants at Handwara Encounter. Hearing from multiple people that it was actually an elaborate trap set up for our army. The entrapped civilians were actually collaborators.

Yes and in a area where there's a support and sympathy for militancy or islamic terrorism since over 3 decades , with past cases of "civilians" collaborating with terrorists and many many cases of false tips and wrong intel .

They just walked into the house without any knowledge of house or who is inside or a backup plan if things went south or anything .

Someone shouted hostages and they walked in for sadbhavna without any backup plan?

NSG specializes in hostage rescue ,where was it?(sarcastic question)

mod edit: please stay on topic. there are other threads for venting. poster warned again

 

[Brood Father]

Good Jio, one reverse and you have reached Namo. That is good progress......
What will happen if there is a war tomorrow?

I don't understand your point however In my opinion war is the only option. We missed the bus in feb last year and i don't think that modi has capability to go to war.
Anyways i don't want to go into slugfest.

 

[Brood Father]

India is not going to be on the back foot .
It's only because of Modi order big guns scream at loc.

We can only hope that there will be blood on other the side. Pounding them for couple of days won't do much damage. Hitting them at Pindi would

 

[WARREN SS]

you do not know zilch about the Army and still keep coming out with all non-sensical facts. Not a single statement you made is true and you masquerade here as an expert with all your cock and bull hearsay.

That is abject dishonesty and deliberate slurring idiotic activity.

Personal attack ignored

You really think A Soldier in his 40's Will have Peak physical condition as one in his 20's
Isn't Why Non commissioned Soldiers retired in every military

This Why Physical Standards Maintained in Units through BPT's

 

[Kumata]

Army did handover bakistan a propaganda victory ,why is a sub inspector with RR is really a mystery ,how is he in the room intervention team & not another RR person,fi

stop the rhetoric..

RR works with local police man. they understand the language and culture better... moreover they have cultivated their own intelligence ... this is a SOP in kashmir...moreover, Locals trust their own man more than RR who are from other states and have language issues...