India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[NAMICA]

 

[shade]

Good we're back to India-Pak LOC news.
I for a minute was thinking are we on that "Gucci gear-less gareeb Indian SF" thread

 

[Killbot]

2016 operations by para or Myanmar ops which were conducted in night time,

The infiltration was at night. They waited till first light to start shooting.

ANA commandos are in anyway better than Paras, in CQB, not enough data, while the whole history of para is filled with vivid range of missions. Ignoring all this that most of the missions of ANA involved operations on the same territory, hostile yes but not on the same level as performing ops in a totally different nation

I'm talking about NDS special forces. ANA commando corps is equivalent to Ghataks.

NDS SF's most recent mission:

Afghan Special Forces Kill Senior Al-Qaeda Leader

Afghan forces have killed a top Al-Qaeda leader wanted by the United States, as the government on Sunday accused the Taliban of still keeping close ties with the ISIS group.

www.google.com

The situation in Afghanistan is such that 40% is controlled by govt. 20% by Taliban and rest is contested by both. So going from Afghan govt territory to taliban territory is like crossing a border. But yeah, not nearly as well guarded as Indo pork border. But that wasn't my point in the first place. I said that Afghan (NDS) SF are known for night raids. They are probably the most experienced direct action element in the area, aside from JSOC units. Both units (Para and Afghan SF) can learn from each other on different aspects. If you still don't agree, then let us just agree to disagree or continue in appropriate thread.
@mods, please move irrelevant posts to appropriate thread.

 

[Knowitall]

Don't take these twitter handles Seriously.

Especially frontalfire he is one big feku.

Check news channels first.

Fronalfire will define normal border firing as a war like situation.

Also his recent tweet of rafale moving is also fake.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

 

[cereal killer]

Time to use Pinakas with Bofors combo & then witness mayhem.

 

[FalconZero]

The infiltration was at night. They waited till first light to start shooting.

From: https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nat...ver-250-km-to-destroy-terror-launch-pads.html

After an arduous trek of ten hours, the commandos crossed the LoC in Poonch and Nowgam sectors and reached their targets by 1:45 am. They returned to the Indian side of the border by 4:30 am on Thursday

So raid was conducted in night and operations was performed before the first light in the morning, . In the Myanmar case, there are mentions of the use of NODs.


> I said that Afghan (NDS) SF are known for night raids. They are probably the most experienced direct action element in the area, aside from JSOC units
I don't have enough info to deny that, too lazy to bother, so I will take your words for it. But still I don't think taliban controlled region has that much of sophisticated network than pakis...so nvm.

Both units (Para and Afghan SF) can learn from each other on different aspects.

Well, this was my point in the beginning itself, rather than boasting outright dismissing, this should have been said way before, could have saved time of both of us. There's nothing to disagree about at this point.

 

[Knowitall]

Time to use Pinakas with Bofors combo & then witness mayhem.

Sapne suhane ladak pan ke.

Let me tell you a cold hard fact.

Until the death toll is not significant that is 15-20 or so we must not expect any retailation.

Base attack more deaths or attack on public this is the kind of action that will result in retaliation.

15-20 dead means media and public pressure 5-6 marte hai so nobody cares.

 

[FalconZero]

wut? Chinese grenade?

 

[ClawReed787]

wut? Chinese grenade?

How often do they use Chinese ones?

 

[Tactical Doge]

How often do they use Chinese ones?

Very

 

[Tupac slayer]

Afghan *forces*. Not SOF. And they aren't supported by American forces on all missions anymore. Just the ones where America wants to capture someone.

And I meant only in the night raid/night fighting in particular and Dorect action in general. Para SF are superior in many regards. LRRPs for example.

For that matter, even Para have their share of botched operations. EDI building hostage situation for example. The op was so poorly planned that it led to 3 soldiers losing their lives, Capt. Tushar Mahajan, Capt. Pawan Kumar and L.Nk. Om Prakash. They used only one entry point, didn't use a helicopter to enter from top etc. Why? They didn't have enough experience in such operations and the field commander did not have time to plan the operation. And made tactical errors under stress.

Indian Special Forces (archived)

I'd be very glad if every soldier in the IA gets: moden combat boots, gloves, knee pads, ear piece for comms, a good reliable assault rifle, a good plater carrier with ability to stop atleast AK rounds, a good helmet, a standard knife, a good 9mm or .45 cal secondary fire arm, a modern uniform...

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LRRP: I dont think Para SF ever conducted LRRP missions within India. you are confusing search and destory missions with LRRP., LRRP mission was conducted by Srilankan Army special forces and Task force -8 men, who would Infiltrate into LTTE controlled area, conduct surprise raids, strech LTTE forces to fight in a wider front, Gather Intelligence and revert back.

 

[Tupac slayer]

The infiltration was at night. They waited till first light to start shooting.


I'm talking about NDS special forces. ANA commando corps is equivalent to Ghataks.

NDS SF's most recent mission:

Afghan Special Forces Kill Senior Al-Qaeda Leader

Afghan forces have killed a top Al-Qaeda leader wanted by the United States, as the government on Sunday accused the Taliban of still keeping close ties with the ISIS group.

www.google.com

The situation in Afghanistan is such that 40% is controlled by govt. 20% by Taliban and rest is contested by both. So going from Afghan govt territory to taliban territory is like crossing a border. But yeah, not nearly as well guarded as Indo pork border. But that wasn't my point in the first place. I said that Afghan (NDS) SF are known for night raids. They are probably the most experienced direct action element in the area, aside from JSOC units. Both units (Para and Afghan SF) can learn from each other on different aspects. If you still don't agree, then let us just agree to disagree or continue in appropriate thread.
@mods, please move irrelevant posts to appropriate thread.

Taliban control of Afghanistan is more than 30% if you take conflict areas as of now. Southern Part of Afghanistan is literally gone to Taliban. In next 5 years Americans will have one more saigon moment, The Saigon moment I am talking about can be post poned but not avoided.

United States is fighting in Afghanistan to avoid a strategic defeat in the hands of Taliban. If the facts are correct, Northern Afghanistan close to Uzbekistan will be free from taliban, since Uzbeks will fight tooth to nail to prevent pashtuns from taking over Mirwaiz i Sharif

 

[Tupac slayer]

X Corps commander and I Strike Corps Commander of Pakistan army are having sleepless nights while rest of the Corps Commanders are busy playing golf and having whiskey

 

[Deadtrap]

Oh bhai kon yeh hai?
Full nanga kar ke rakh diya Porkis ko

 

[Killbot]

LRRP: I dont think Para SF ever conducted LRRP missions within India. you are confusing search and destory missions with LRRP., LRRP mission was conducted by Srilankan Army special forces and Task force -8 men, who would Infiltrate into LTTE controlled area, conduct surprise raids, strech LTTE forces to fight in a wider front, Gather Intelligence and revert back.

I'm talking about operation Pawan. They did conduct their share of LRRPs. That led to the failed Jaffna University helidrop.

And during operation Khukri.

 

[Killbot]

Taliban control of Afghanistan is more than 30% if you take conflict areas as of now. Southern Part of Afghanistan is literally gone to Taliban. In next 5 years Americans will have one more saigon moment, The Saigon moment I am talking about can be post poned but not avoided.

United States is fighting in Afghanistan to avoid a strategic defeat in the hands of Taliban. If the facts are correct, Northern Afghanistan close to Uzbekistan will be free from taliban, since Uzbeks will fight tooth to nail to prevent pashtuns from taking over Mirwaiz i Sharif

Come to think of it, India constructed a hospital in Mazar-i-Sharif some time ago.. Is it really only a hospital?

And Taliban isn't the only militia in Afghanistan. There is ISIL Khorasan, Al-Qaeda, and a lot of local tribes doing their own thing.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

AJK is like Poonch, Rajouri level.. Jungle, valleys mountains, not very high compared to GB. It's still not a favourable scenario as enemy occupies heights & has logistical advantage. But we've done that before. Haji Peer pass that we returned in 1965 war is in fact in AJK. One of hardest battles ever fought in Kashmir front.

Battle of Hajipir Pass 1965

The cease-fire of January I, 1949 ended the First Kashmir War but did nothing to improve the relations between Pakistan and India. Kashmir remained the bone of contention. Nehruji offered a no war pact to Pakistan. Pakistan said that such a pact could only be signed after an ho

www.indiandefencereview.com

Capturing PoJ&K will help India use the roads built by Porkis to invade PoGB and recapture our territories. Neelum District has small direct connection to PoGB’s Kharmang District and we can capture Astore District in PoGB using Neelum District which has two vital connections between Porkistan and PoGB. To capture and Control PoGB India needs to control and Dominate N15 and N35 Highways. These roads are economically, political and military arteries of PoGB. We need to hold especially N35 or Karakoram Highway this is the road used by the Chinese for there economic corridor with Pakjabis and also for future military use if necessary which I know many Indians know about.

 

[Deadtrap]

Aslam Achu (BLA Commander) in Max Hospital Delhi. Came here for treatment in 2018.

Long live BLA.

 

[Deathstar]

Aslam Achu (BLA Commander) in Max Hospital Delhi. Came here for treatment in 2018.

Long live BLA.
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