India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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Yeah I don't get why don't we celebrate 1965 too much.. Defence of Jammu, Akhnoor some legendary stuff Army did there despite less resources. Capture of Haji Pir (most daring operation since WW2). IAF's performance against PAF( which was much superior).
Battle of Asal Uttar. Instead we should celebrate it like Kashmir day as we failed Paki plans on Kashmir front.
Sitting right outside of Lahore...
 

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Indian agencies get Pak document ‘certifying’ Hizbul chief Salahuddin as ‘bona fide‘ official of ISI | India News - Times of India

This will build a good case for FATF blacklisting???
 

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5 more unreported fatalities


More unreported fatalities included in the long list which never acknowledged by
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. FC sepoy Amir Abbas Pakistan army NK Basharat Ahmed khan FC NK Muhammad farooq FC sepoy samiullah All KIA in #Waziristan

Pakistan army soldier Gulam raza khan was killed at unknown location on 29 August #LoC #Waziristan #Balochistan
 

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no but every chance we get we should try to blacklist
i was thinking about this the other day.
other than against Russians & warlords(from all over the world) have these multilateral institutions ever effectively did their job?

tareeq pe tareeq pe tareeq.
 

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i was thinking about this the other day.
other than against Russians & warlords(from all over the world) have these multilateral institutions ever effectively did their job?

tareeq pe tareeq pe tareeq.
It's more like certain countries like Pakistan are adept at prostituting themselves to whoever gets them out of sticky situations like this.
Malaysia Turki bailouts don't come for free.
On the other hand you have places like Iran that have been sanctioned to sht, so it's like water off a duck's back for them
 

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You still think blacklisting is going to happen?

Pakistan drifting away from US towards China: Defence analyst

Blacklisting Pakistan would be a great way to punish the terrorist nation and be an example for Iran also getting close to china
 

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Pakistan drifting away from US towards China: Defence analyst

Blacklisting Pakistan would be a great way to punish the terrorist nation and be an example for Iran also getting close to china
I have been hearing the same since the past 10 years.. When will Pakis complete the drift.. or they like to keep the option of having Amrika as father once again open.. :)
 

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Pakistan plans to infiltrate 400 terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir amid India-China border row: Report

As Pakistan races towards a complete economic collapse and North Korea-like situation, they will use the current ongoing LAC conflict as a means to infiltrate terrorists into India. Using chaos to capture critical heights has been a Pakistani-China strategy for a long time. We will also need to think differently here since we are not powerful enough to fight both sides simultaneously without external support.

1. Get Allies involved - for their benefit
This is where we need to utilize our ties with Afghanistan more seriously. The key will be to provide the Afghan forces, irregular and regular, sufficient quality equipment to strike into Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in case Pakistan mobilizes its forces on the western border. Khyber, as we all know, is not recognized as a part of Pakistan by the Afghans, who disagree with the Durand Line that divides their people.

Similarly, taking on China and Pakistan would be a very difficult task for our forces without further external help. That means we will also need to realize our ties with Vietnam more seriously. China occupies the Paracel Islands of Vietnam since 1979. That is illegal and Vietnam still claims it. A busy PLAAF/PLA would mean that our diplomats can instigate Vietnam to strike and take over the islands when much of the military focus is on Ladakh. Vietnam is the only country other than us that can withstand and take on the PLAN. We should also go ahead and supply them with BrahMos regardless of what Russia says in case the full-fledged war breaks out. They will need missiles to sink PLAN ships. Russians will most likely sit and eat popcorn in this conflict, while secretly supplying weapons to us and whoever supports us.

Another ally that we often tend to overlook in the military matters is Bhutan. We may need Bhutan's participation if we have to decapitate PLA positions between Bhutan and my state Sikkim, especially the Chumbi Valley. Bhutan is suffering from the recent dispute raised by China as well against their territory and they have a reason to give us a free hand in their territory. In case of excessive heat in Ladakh, our forces will need Bhutan's cooperation to use their territory to box the PLA units in the valley and use them as a bargaining chip to back off. If China doesn't relent, we can just add the entire contingent stuck there to a part of the history.

Even with Taro Kono as the PM, Japan will be useful only from an economic standpoint. They might use economic muscle to cut commercial dependence on China even faster, but asking Japan to fight alongside us is impossible. Senkaku is claimed by China but is under Japanese control; therefore they have no incentive to enter a war. Not to mention the fact that the Japanese military has not even seen the 'W' of war in the last 75 years. Despite being one of the most advanced military forces on the planet, they would be ineffective in striking on China's East Coast, where PLA is at its mightiest.

However, Japan can be our biggest voice in the "liberal" West, politically speaking. They can be the drummers that convey the message for the world to act against China. Being Japan, Western countries would listen to them.

The same can be said for Australia, that can provide us with a global voice against China while we are busy fighting.

2. Pre-empt loss of external military support from the United States

After analyzing CCP's military mindset, I have a strong feeling that will invade us after November elections in the USA. You see, the CCP is hoping for a Biden victory. A Biden-Harris duo in the White House would guarantee CCP that no military support is provided to India either militarily or logistically. And unfortunately for us, Biden is leading.

Both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have significant business and commercial interests in China; not just now but also since the time of Barack Obama, Bush and the Clintons (Biden is quite old). He was one of the fiercest proponents of 'cost-cutting' and moving manufacturing to China that resulted in the closure of numerous American manufacturing businesses in the 80s and 90s. Even Kamala Harris is quite a strong China supporter. She has not vocally come out in the support but despite the damage that China is doing to the American IP through sabotage, she has always categorically brushed China-related questions aside.
Considering the infiltration of Islamists & Pakistanis in the Democrat political campaign, it is easy to see in the last one year what their position has been regarding PM Narendra Modi and our territory of Jammu & Kashmir.

While we are capable enough to take on the PLA without any assistance, at least enough to make them think 10 times of continuing the war, a 2-front war for our forces will be a stretch. Neither do we have the GDP, nor the muscle to take a full-fledged war to both the sides. And there is no guarantee that rogue elements from Bangladesh won't intrude in West Bengal, in close cooperation with rogue elements in our politics like Mamta Banerjee's TMC or Asaduddin Owaisi's AIMIM that is settling Rohingyas in Hyderbad faster than anyone.

This means we will have to consider outflanking the enemies rather than outgunning them using whatever dirty tricks we can use. Now how we do it, is something I cannot think off other than Chumbi valley move and a full-scale strike across the LAC from Depsang in Arunachal Pradesh.
 
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