India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Waanar]

The only thing is that no force should develop the fort mentality and remain inside so much so that if two soldiers venture out they are killed just outside the gate and their weapons were taken away.

Domination from a post implies domination of entire area from where the post can be attacked. If regular perimeter patrolling and area domination is carried out then these thing are less likely to happen...

However, I agree with you that terrorism has no fronts..

Say what you will about commies, they knew how to put religious radicalism in check.
Absolutely destroyed and ended completely the Central Asian Muslim culture in the Bolshevik revolution and following years and Chinese are currently finishing off the Uighur's.

I'm a huge proponent of combining capitalism with selective authoritarianism for jihadnuts.

Let's get our very own Gulag e Hind boys.
Has a nice ring to it.

 

[Bhadra]

3 LET terrorists arrested .

Recently recruited ??

Lolab ???

That is a managed surrender..... parents negotiating surrender.... Bakari Ki ammo Kab tak Khair Manayegi.... they will be found again in Lolab unless their parents manage to send them to AMU Aligarh.

 

[Kumata]

PAF buying AEW&C platform to counter Rafale ... They know once Rafale inducted their F16 will be fried from far away and hence stuffing themselves with sufficient AEWACS. Also to cover their ground based radar and Air defence incompetence.... In short after Balakot mirage voyage across their territory shit scared of IAF!

How do they counter rafael with a AEWACS... their AEWACS do not have the necessary sweeping range to detect rafaels or any other aircraft flying in Our side... and the moment they will try to fly near IB, MIGs are enough to fry them ...rafael is still far away...

 

[Kumata]

As much I want this to happen, this won't happen, because IAF might've underestimated PAF. I know it sound's harsh, but they can see us 600Km from any direction.

You are Over estimating the range of Porki AEWACS and ADS by huge margin...they cannot see us from 600 KM away else balakot would not have happened....

 

[Akula]

An article by a retired PAF Air Commodore on why they fear S-400. It is not far-fetched to say that deployment of 2 S-400 regiments on the Western border will pretty much ensure a no-fly zone in Pakistani airspace until they come up with valid countermeasures.

https://**********/pdf/threads/indias-s-400-air-defence-and-balance-of-power-in-south-asia.652242/

Can you please post this article again?

 

[Hellfire]

I never Said We are Actively involved

Your specific post, which made me feel that you were assuming RAW to be actively involved in Baluchitsan, is as under:

Of course, one should not derive such conclusions where the member samsaptaka is expressing scepticism over RAW support to Baluch 'so much as we think' and you reply as above.

Only problem, normal people will reach the same conclusion as I have.

Rest of the post not quoted - look at the players involved - GCC-Iran-Afghanistan-Pakistan with India-US-Israel-Russia-China at the periphery. Will explain the tremendous flux.

 

[Bhadra]

Say what you will about commies, they knew how to put religious radicalism in check.
Absolutely destroyed and ended completely the Central Asian Muslim culture in the Bolshevik revolution and following years and Chinese are currently finishing off the Uighur's.

I'm a huge proponent of combining capitalism with selective authoritarianism for jihadnuts.

Let's get our very own Gulag e Hind boys.
Has a nice ring to it.

The history has proved that wrong....
Islamic fundamentalism back with a big backlash as we witnessed in Chechnya... The Don does no longer flow quietly... Cossack Dons are back hitting Russians harder... Look at Georgia, Look at Ukraine ...... what a fall... The Othodox Church is back with a bang.... Communism as the most toxic opium of masses failed.... religion survives..

Chinse thus are shit-scared of Jinjiang fundamentalism, Buddhism. Taoism and Confucian ideologies... they could not eliminate them even after the disastrous Cultural revolution... They can compromise anything including their economic model for their state ideology..... Let us see how long they last.

That is also being attempted in India by Hindu ideologues... other things will fall in place but first and foremost is the restoration of Hindutva... which is long over due.

 

[Hellfire]

I said That Direct Chinese boots on ground Will only create more friendly environment for us
That Is a Real chance We Would like to exploit.

Conversely, it will result in a crackdown that will see Baluchi resistance wiped out as China cares two hoots for Muslims.

Did you consider that?

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

3 LET terrorists arrested .

These could be the same Terrorists that attacked the BSF Patrol in Srinagar. It’s a distinct possibility.

 

[Bhadra]

If there is an attack that prompts an Indian military response, it would:

• Have to be a terrorist attack against Indian civilians, of a scale rivaling 26/11 (gunfire or blasts)
• Shouldn't be an industrial accident, a fire, a train derailment, or anything else that can be explained away as an accident
• Shouldn't be a Pulwama-scale attack on uniformed personnel, either, since India will tread the escalation ladder more carefully

If Pakis indeed are up to a mischief, i.e. carrying out a terror attack and denying it as an Indian false-flag, they've picked a terrible time (for them).

• COVID-19 has given Modi a get out of jail free card on the economic front. His approval ratings for handling of COVID-19 are among the highest in the world (>85%)
• Thanks to that "get out of jail free" card, Modi is immune to the threat of international economic sanctions
• India has a proven record of placing strategic goals above the threat of economic sanctions (1998 N-tests under Vajpayee).
• India also has a proven record of placing strategic goals above the threat of foreign military intervention (1971 and dismemberment of pakistan)
• Modi is immune to economic sanctions; and as of 2020, there isn't a blade of grass anywhere on this planet that India can't nuke (so no threat of foreign military intervention)
• Paki N-bluff has been called at Balakot, so Indian Army enjoys a vast headroom vis-a-vis PoK

So if Pakis are up to something, they have a death-wish. There's nothing more Modi would want at this time than a justification to have PA X-corps gangraped and big swathes of PoK retaken.

You mean to say the IBGs should be ready in the launch pads >>>???

 

[Hellfire]

Yeah.. but dont think thats huge in size and they just have just south to sweep.. .. .. I beleive it's the sweep range of their platforms which warrants more platforms..

They find it pretty tough to track the Navy UAVs which roam around till Chabahar.

Example... Our Awacs can operate from far western UP or central India and can still sweep whole of porkland while Porkis had to come deep near to International border but still cannot sweep beyond rajasthan border....

Here, placed your A-50 Phalcon over Ghaziabad (Western UP) and Eastern border of MP respectively. Circles are radius of 350 Kms.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

it's hard to say what imran khan actually thinks. there's also a good possibility that the army/isi is feeding him bullshit in order to manipulate his actions.

imran khan is not a smart man, and there have been recent reports of him being an alcoholic as well. considering that he's a mere figurehead and the army+isi deep state run the show, it's not far-fetched.

I don’t consider him to be a Innocent Man. He has hatred for India and Hindus in his heart like majority of Pakis.

 

[IndiaRising]

Can you please post this article again?

“India’s s400 and balance of power in South Asia”. Google the title of the article and you should get it.

for some reason I can’t post the article here

edit:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gl...fence-and-balance-of-power-in-south-asia/amp/

 

[Hellfire]

just to clarify if you are not supporting/sheltering terrorists you should not have any fear. If you are then
your home should be destroyed and maybe further punishment. In colonial USA traitors were hanged for every one to come out and see.

Best successes have been where a pattern has been created with 'safe houses'.

Often, sexual exploitation of women in the house hosting the terrorists has taken place which has been the most driving impetus for intelligence tip off.

The suggested measures will discourage these.

 

[Kumata]

They find it pretty tough to track the Navy UAVs which roam around till Chabahar.





Here, placed your A-50 Phalcon over Ghaziabad (Western UP) and Eastern border of MP respectively. Circles are radius of 350 Kms.

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Publicly available info says Phalcons have a sweep radius of 500 KMs not 350 while DRDO netras are less at 250 but those are published figured.. actual range will always be classified... Take your own guess if we can operate from UP or not...

 

[Hellfire]

If that's the best they can do.. then, send them on guard duty without guns.. we will atleast save the guns.. waise bhi bakre katne wale to hain hi..

Give an alternative suggestion to having troops on ground with weapons for securing your citizens with severe restrictions on employment of fire.

 

[Hellfire]

Publicly available info says Phalcons have a sweep radius of 500 KMs not 350 while DRDO netras are less at 250 but those are published figured.. actual range will always be classified... Take your own guess if we can operate from UP or not...

Can not. Know for certain.

 

[Hellfire]

As much I want this to happen, this won't happen, because IAF might've underestimated PAF. I know it sound's harsh, but they can see us 600Km from any direction.

Only in PDF Fantasy world. Not in reality.

 

[Flint]

I don’t consider him to be a Innocent Man. He has hatred for India and Hindus in his heart like majority of Pakis.

I don't think he hates hindus in particular. he's just a puppet of the pak fauj and says what he needs to say to stay on their good side.

at the end of the day it hardly matters what his personal opinions are.

 

[WARREN SS]

Conversely, it will result in a crackdown that will see Baluchi resistance wiped out as China cares two hoots for Muslims.

Did you consider that?

India try wiping out so called struggle in Kashmir for 3 decades has we succeeded
In it??
How can they control sistan baloach
Or Pastuns in NWFP
Both originate from different nations

Chinese cannot do suppression in Pakistan
The resentment will grow in Local population which already dislike Chinese racially
Balochistani's are not uygher's.