India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Hellfire]

Also I need to add one more thing Do you guys know mostly these Kashmiris don't even pay electricity bill. It is indeed a heaven for them.

Illegal colony in Secunderabad Cantt right in middle of Army Officers enclave does not pay either, have 24 x 7 provision of electricity and refuse to vacate even after allotment of alternate land. Still squatting.

So?

 

[WARREN SS]

You have no clue. So, chill.

Even You Don't have It either
i Made My presumptions

PS: In a hurry you have not noted I Put SSB aside

 

[Hellfire]

Stole their assault rifles ? That's humiliating.. BSF should buckle up.. and alter their SOPs.. Looks like they were enjoying some garam chai...

02 soldiers standing on guard duties along road side are approached shot point blank and their weapon snatched and taken away as crowd surges around the attackers.

What are your options, sir?

 

[Hellfire]

Even You Don't have It either
i Made My presumptions

How sure are you about that? Seriously am asking.


And I read every word you typed. Don't worry.

 

[Hellfire]

As soon as we gain a lead these terrorist make it even.

RIP soldies

Also any idea about the installation of Cameras in the valley?

Not on the streets Except for ATMs and few shops, the latter invariably develops a technical fault in such cases though.

 

[WARREN SS]

Chinese directly intervene militarily to 'protect their interests' or where we have to go to a war actually?

Pentagon Will more than happy than regional player than us

 

[Hellfire]

I believe we are far more smarter as we know the IAF ...Quantity doesn't mean that they are better... they tried hard to get a kill of SU but we know what happened. I am sure IAF knows the limitations of these and are prepared.

To be honest, I am still not able to understand why porkis need so many platforms of same type to manage such small area...there is more to it than meets the eye.

Because they have southern flanks aka Arabian Sea to cover too.

It is pretty interesting what a strike force can do flying in at 100-200 feet over ocean/sea

 

[Hellfire]

Indian AWACS based on Airbus was cleared by DAC in 2008. But IAF blocked both additional DRDO NETRA & DRDO AIRBUS AWACS to import costly Phalcons. Result 27th Feb Embarrassment.

Not to forget each Apache cost is equivalent of DRDO NETRA AEW. But IAF & Army will import crap but not indigenous products.

Are you sure Airbus 330 MMRT was blocked by IAF or was GoI balking at funding?

Can you cite for the bold?

And I hope you remain aware that Phalcon is the radar and Platforms were to be common for the next tranche of AWACS & Airborne refuellers?

 

[WARREN SS]

How sure are you about that? Seriously am asking.


And I read every word you typed. Don't worry.

R&AW is not cutout for it If not even CIA (not in iran)

There is Only two agencies Which are cut out for this role goes by same name Both exist in there Defense departments

 

[aghamarshana]

Because they have southern flanks aka Arabian Sea to cover too.

It is pretty interesting what a strike force can do flying in at 100-200 feet over ocean/sea

Can't they use alternatives like aerostats at clusters while easing off some platforms for areas which they consider could be threatened by us? The money could be used to buy some new jets. Last time I remember they got no money to buy 8 F16s under FMS route.

 

[Hellfire]

Pentagon Will more than happy than regional player than us

That does not take care of your core interests. Afghanistan stands as an example in front of you.

 

[Hellfire]

Can't they use alternatives like aerostats at clusters while easing off some platforms for areas which they consider could be threatened by us? The money could be used to buy some new jets. Last time I remember they got no money to buy 8 F16s under FMS route.

The problem is the 'long legs' that IAF has.

Any covert strike, apparently I have no clue of it as per a member here, is launched with a diversionary movement of aircrafts and troops. Bear with me if you are aware of the same. Example: If a strike has to be ordered in say general area south Baluchistan, the movement of teams/aircrafts may take place towards as ridiculous a place as Singapore (has happened in one case) then re-routing and replenishment/stocking at an off site to launch the last phase. Similarly, you can have the airstrike coming in from the direction of Gulf of Aden.

 

[Hellfire]

R&AW is not cutout for it If not even CIA (not in iran)

There is Only two agencies Which are cut out for this role goes by same name Both exist in there Defense departments

First of all your premise that RAW is actively involved in direct funding to Baluchistan is simply that - a premise.
RAW is limited to, as mentioned earlier, to coordination with Iran and Afghanistan, who have ample reasons to support BLA and other groups for their own respective reasons. You may wish to analyse the Indian support to Northern Alliance in this regards. Yes, we did have few special operatives (not necessarily ex SF) there for SIGINT/ELINT/Coordination/Training purposes, but by and large lead was with Iran and Russia.

Secondly. You need to revisit which agency conducts the foreign operations, irrespective of implementing organization. There is no 'compartmentalization' until and unless there is a one off hit & run/rendition raid.

Thanks

 

[WARREN SS]

That does not take care of your core interests. Afghanistan stands as an example in front of you.

Afghans are not Pakistani's

Afghan's are True to there Ethnics reality different from Pakistani's

More Foreign Boots on Baluchistan grounds more chaos Will erupt

Whatever Establishment claims Pakistani's are As racist to Hans as We are they only Cover it behind smile

 

[Hellfire]

Afghans are not Pakistani's

Afghan's are True to there Ethnics reality different from Pakistani's

More Foreign Boots on Baluchistan grounds more chaos Will erupt

Whatever Establishment claims Pakistani's are As racist to Hans as We are they only Cover it behind smile

What did I quote the above reply to and what have you replied - it has simply gone over my head. Sorry, can not establish any correlation here.

Could you explain please?

 

[WARREN SS]

First of all your premise that RAW is actively involved in direct funding to Baluchistan is simply that - a premise.
RAW is limited to, as mentioned earlier, to coordination with Iran and Afghanistan, who have ample reasons to support BLA and other groups for their own respective reasons. You may wish to analyse the Indian support to Northern Alliance in this regards. Yes, we did have few special operatives (not necessarily ex SF) there for SIGINT/ELINT/Coordination/Training purposes, but by and large lead was with Iran and Russia.

I never Said We are Actively involved
Look at Pathetic unorganized state of Insurgency (read above post)
if u Read about Present scenarios
it clear Bugti's And marri's Will Slit each other throats if They some how supported by Us
or Double cross us

Secondly Its Evident Marri's are stronger And bugti has lost control of tribe
but We need Support of both Tribes

Its a mess

 

[WARREN SS]

What did I quote the above reply to and what have you replied - it has simply gone over my head. Sorry, can not establish any correlation here.

Could you explain please?

I said That Direct Chinese boots on ground Will only create more friendly environment for us
That Is a Real chance We Would like to exploit.

 

[Kumata]

Because they have southern flanks aka Arabian Sea to cover too.

It is pretty interesting what a strike force can do flying in at 100-200 feet over ocean/sea

Yeah.. but dont think thats huge in size and they just have just south to sweep.. .. .. I beleive it's the sweep range of their platforms which warrants more platforms..

Example... Our Awacs can operate from far western UP or central India and can still sweep whole of porkland while Porkis had to come deep near to International border but still cannot sweep beyond rajasthan border....

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Beats logic. You expect to win an insurgency by running rough shod over the citizen who may/may not have much of choice living in a society where you can not really protect him or hers?

The demand is simple. Groups ask for a son, or they take a daughter/woman of the house if not sent for the 'cause', or else, pay a substantial amount (know a case of a guy whose family paid Rs 20 lacs and his family flew him out of India along with sister for 'higher studies')

just to clarify if you are not supporting/sheltering terrorists you should not have any fear. If you are then
your home should be destroyed and maybe further punishment. In colonial USA traitors were hanged for every one to come out and see.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

02 soldiers standing on guard duties along road side are approached shot point blank and their weapon snatched and taken away as crowd surges around the attackers.

What are your options, sir?

If that's the best they can do.. then, send them on guard duty without guns.. we will atleast save the guns.. waise bhi bakre katne wale to hain hi..