India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Mikel]

 

[mist_consecutive]

Wht did we achieve of those 2bill$ investments in dams , parliament buildings etc .. It was known fact the moment usa leaves its taliban coming back .. And taliban is a ideological regime with islamic utopian mentality . They dnt care abt afgan economy or other secular interests ..

Well, you can't always predict the future. The USA also waged a futile war on terror in Afghanistan wasting trillions of dollars.

Our assumption was we can keep supporting Afghanistan under the security umbrella of the USA, and the Afghan military. will be competent and strong enough to resist Taliban. We even gifted them artillery and Mi-24 gunships.

Also, local Afghans have a cordial view towards India and we have initiated a lot of proxy warfare through Afghanistan into Pakistan.

In short we lost, all our money and investments drained, lol. That was some 3 billion dollars enough to help in development of poor regions in India.

We ought to have crippled Pakistan during Balakot, a huge mistake. Now, with the American sellout govt. choosing to look another way, the Afghanistan-Pakistan-China nexus will be a big headache to India.

 

[ezsasa]

If Afghanistan comes under Taliban control is there a chance that Pakistan pushes it's Taliban trained terrorists in Kashmir?

100%. Taliban is not one group, it is a consortium of groups. within taliban there are afghan based groups and pak based groups. safe to assume ISI has several groups under their direct control, else narcotics wouldn’t be coming out of Afghanistan to rest of the world via pak so easily.

for a taliban foot soldier, kashmir cause is of no relevance as long as they get to kill kafirs, and establish Islamic rule on kafir land.

For past 6 months, paki are trying to portray that jihadis are not coming from pak to India, with afghan jihadis ISI gets double plausible deniability. That excuse won’t work, but when did paki ever think straight.

 

[Jimih]

After Airforce stations now Naval stations

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

none of them are called Bugti or Marri

Those are baluchis not porkystani.

 

[Jimih]

If Afghanistan comes under Taliban control is there a chance that Pakistan pushes it's Taliban trained terrorists in Kashmir?

Talibanis are normal Afghanis.
Thats it.

 

[Raaakisazih]

Well, you can't always predict the future. The USA also waged a futile war on terror in Afghanistan wasting trillions of dollars.

Our assumption was we can keep supporting Afghanistan under the security umbrella of the USA, and the Afghan military. will be competent and strong enough to resist Taliban. We even gifted them artillery and Mi-24 gunships.

Also, local Afghans have a cordial view towards India and we have initiated a lot of proxy warfare through Afghanistan into Pakistan.



We ought to have crippled Pakistan during Balakot, a huge mistake. Now, with the American sellout govt. choosing to look another way, the Afghanistan-Pakistan-China nexus will be a big headache to India.

Exactly my concern is china not Pakistan neither taliban we need to contain china and Quad needs to be more active

 

[Lost user]

imo only way to stop shit happening in afghanistan is to break pakistan or wipe it out of world. bec pakis will support tabibanfags always, and due to support of pakis taliban has survived in front of US

then spray some chem in ground and make it barren as hell, so no weed cultivation. Hence no rev to taliban from ingrown drugs.


then talibanbitches will come in line.

Yes.. semblance of stability in Afghanistan can be achieved only by fully destabilizing Pakistan.. Remember, an unstable Pakistan is always in India's interest.. The worst terrorist attacks on India, took place when Pakistan was stable and growing..

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Baloch people are conservative in their approach but they never target any other religion.
Targeting other religion is work of punjabis and sindhis.
Baloch and balti are only community left in porkistan that are secular and never targets amy other religion
Even Baloch will be first to defend them from porki army

All seculars of afghanistan balochistan died in 1027 ad approx. A bunch of tolerant modern day balochis you see on tv are not representatives of 99.99% who practice violent intertribal buttseks far from secularism.

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

As @iNorthernerOn9 noted only support them for the disintegration of porkystan end of story.

 

[Lost user]

With China in the game, this is not possible. These types of fringe warlords value two things, money and arms. We cannot compete with China in this race.

The only hope is, with the American pullback, NATO dependency on Pakistan will be reduced or even completely eliminated, while Pakistan will become a complete client state of China.
After 5-10 years (election of pro-Republican govt. in America), we can turn Pakistan into America's next target if we play our cards right.

Not so fast.. ISI ambitions do not end at Afghanistan's borders.. They will try to radicalize Uzbeks and Tajiks.. and exert leverage in central Asia, via terrorist attacks.. In the long term rabid Jihadis are a problem for both Russia in securing its southern flank, and for China in Xinjiang.. So, I don't think China or Russia will be too happy to see all of Afghanistan under Taliban /ISI control..

 

[Jimih]

 

[Lost user]

Given the terrorist menace that Pakistan is.. it is absolutely essential to destabilize the Punjabi core of Pakistan.. Pakistan can tolerate unstable KP, Sindh, Balochistan.. but an unstable Punjab will be its undoing.. and India is the only country that is within "fu*king distance" of Pakistan's core..

 

[Jimih]

Wah so happy General

 

[Raaakisazih]

Wah so happy General

Do we have violent generals

 

[Knowitall]

Well, you can't always predict the future. The USA also waged a futile war on terror in Afghanistan wasting trillions of dollars.

Our assumption was we can keep supporting Afghanistan under the security umbrella of the USA, and the Afghan military. will be competent and strong enough to resist Taliban. We even gifted them artillery and Mi-24 gunships.

Also, local Afghans have a cordial view towards India and we have initiated a lot of proxy warfare through Afghanistan into Pakistan.



We ought to have crippled Pakistan during Balakot, a huge mistake. Now, with the American sellout govt. choosing to look another way, the Afghanistan-Pakistan-China nexus will be a big headache to India.

Loss of afganistan will also bring the baloch insurgency to a standstill. Most of the militant groups operating in Balochistan have a significant presence in afghanistan where they coordiante with multiple countries. Denial of space there means all their supply lines with be cut.

Then there is also the issue of India completely losing its influence in central Asia.

Both Balakot and the current ceasefire are mistakes of epic proportions. We are giving pakistan the space it needs to bring taliban to power in Afghan in once and for all.

If taliban does manage to take control of Afghanistan expect a renewal of terrorism and insurgency in kashmir through pakistan Punjab through pakistan south India through Lakshadweep and Kerala and if strides are made in these areas then an eventual increase in NE through china and Myanmar.

 

[Lost user]

Wah so happy General

I feel things are gonna blow up big time soon.. and everyone including Naravane knows it.. He is just doing emotional atyachaar on us civilians..

 

[mokoman]

These idiots even label districts will tiny clashes in past 6 months as contested.
80% of so called contested districts are actually in proper control of Afghan government

That image is from here. its not from openstreepmap.

Mapping Taliban Control in Afghanistan

Created by Bill Roggio Interactive Click here to view the interactive Weekly time lapse video of the Taliban's Advance | Apr 13 to Sept 6, 2021

www.longwarjournal.org

True , nobody knows 100% , and situation is fluid.

but i think it will end up like armenia-azerbhaijan war , armenia claiming victory in battle after battle then surrending.

 

[Jimih]

Do we have violent generals

We need thinking Generals.

 

[Jimih]

Interesting