India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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I can't say for a fact it was an F-16; but the likelihood of it seems the greatest just based on various little pieces of information we got at the time.

> First Pak claimed they never used F-16's at all (total lie exposed with AMRAAM wreckage - we also claim we had radar signatures of F-16's too - out of which one disappeared; but since we didn't share them, I won't base my argument on that)

> Imran and Ghafoor went from claiming 3 pilots (Abhinandan + "doosra banda at CMH" + 1 dead - later said to be a Paki pilot who either died of wounds or was lynched by his own people on mistaken identity); to then only claiming 2 pilots, and finally stopped talking about anyone other than Abhinandan.

> Amateur/cellphone videos shot by locals (with their voices in the background) - clearly show and suggest 3 parachutes.

> So basically it was Abhinandan's MiG-21 & one Paki double seat fighter. Meaning it was either an F-16 (most likely), or a double seat variant of the JF-17 (most of the JF-17 fleet is single seat)

Only leaves one likely conclusion. Also, here's another interesting, and potentially clinching, bit of info:

Based on the IAF presentation where they said it was based on the radar signatures, I am certain a F-16 was taken out.

There is no point talking about it again I guess.
If these critical posts are put at the end of the closed Bison taking down F16 thread it would be useful.
 

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how much chances are there in future that Pakistan will break into many countries just like soviet union in 1992
Very little. China will make sure that their puppet lives as a united country so as to exercise maximum control . But yeah it wouldn't progress much in infrastructur, public sectors or anywhere else with the way they are managing their country.

They will probably lose everything to China to avoid this by taking massive loans. At some point, it wouldn't even matter if the interest are low, the sheer quantity of loans they take will nullify this and China knows this all too well.
 

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I can't say for a fact it was an F-16; but the likelihood of it seems the greatest just based on various little pieces of information we got at the time.

> First Pak claimed they never used F-16's at all (total lie exposed with AMRAAM wreckage - we also claim we had radar signatures of F-16's too - out of which one disappeared; but since we didn't share them, I won't base my argument on that)

> Imran and Ghafoor went from claiming 3 pilots (Abhinandan + "doosra banda at CMH" + 1 dead - later said to be a Paki pilot who either died of wounds or was lynched by his own people on mistaken identity); to then only claiming 2 pilots, and finally stopped talking about anyone other than Abhinandan.

> Amateur/cellphone videos shot by locals (with their voices in the background) - clearly show and suggest 3 parachutes.

> So basically it was Abhinandan's MiG-21 & one Paki double seat fighter. Meaning it was either an F-16 (most likely), or a double seat variant of the JF-17 (most of the JF-17 fleet is single seat)

Only leaves one likely conclusion. Also, here's another interesting, and potentially clinching, bit of info:

It is an F16 for sure, my guess is that the downed F16 might have been chosen for bombing run.

the fact that PAF gave a medal for downing su 30 mki is a dead give away that 2 seater aircraft was lost on that day. If it is su 30 mki India will not hesitate to own it and get the pilots.
 

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Very little. China will make sure that their puppet lives as a united country so as to exercise maximum control . But yeah it wouldn't progress much in infrastructur, public sectors or anywhere else with the way they are managing their country.

They will probably lose everything to China to avoid this by taking massive loans. At some point, it wouldn't even matter if the interest are low, the sheer quantity of loans they take will nullify this and China knows this all too well.
Pakistan is China's another North Korea attempt. But it is slightly difficult country to subdue even for the Chingus
 

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Gupta ji ko kya takkaluph(takleef) hai?
The possible thing happened would be some Indian hacktivist found a vulnerability in Pakistan embassy in Siberia web site ( yes paki sites cakewalk for hacker's) from there it's easy to take control of their mail box ( either by cpanel hijack or SMTP take over) so for most of the embassy social media sites their registered mail id will be associated with official mail box id ( eg : [email protected] ) so it's easy for hacker to take control of social media accounts through this method and post things like this,

Ps: this is not the first time this things happened and it won't be last
 

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The possible thing happened would be some Indian hacktivist found a vulnerability in Pakistan embassy in Siberia web site ( yes paki sites cakewalk for hacker's) from there it's easy to take control of their mail box ( either by cpanel hijack or SMTP take over) so for most of the embassy social media sites their registered mail id will be associated with official mail box id ( eg : [email protected] ) so it's easy for hacker to take control of social media accounts through this way and post things like this,

Ps: this is not the first time this things happened and it won't be last
But what about 3 months salary not paid ? Is this information correct or wrong?
 

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The possible thing happened would be some Indian hacktivist found a vulnerability in Pakistan embassy in Siberia web site ( yes paki sites cakewalk for hacker's) from there it's easy to take control of their mail box ( either by cpanel hijack or SMTP take over) so for most of the embassy social media sites their registered mail id will be associated with official mail box id ( eg : [email protected] ) so it's easy for hacker to take control of social media accounts through this method and post things like this,

Ps: this is not the first time this things happened and it won't be last
That's for them to figure out, do you see any porki or cheeni saying the same when something like this happens to us.
 

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But what about 3 months salary not paid ? Is this information correct or wrong?
Possibly it will be correct because most of salary invoices and bills need official documentation so this mailing done by official mail accounts registered on these compromised servers, when hackers have access to whole data it just logical thinking enough to figure out the salary due that happened for last 3 months or may be it just a pure troll
 

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That's for them to figure out, do you see any porki or cheeni saying the same when something like this happens to us.
The difference between us and them they don't publicise their intrusions ( yes they used to do it before like hackers like Milan, Kashmiri chetta etc) but now days they use any kind of Indian government server intrusions for their limited cyber offensive capability like their hacking forums dedicated marketplace to sell high value Indian servers later they use these these servers for sphere phishing or payload staging ( if you want me to talk about Pakistani threat actors it will be like 30 page essay) in conclusion their amateur hacker culture more organized than ours
 

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