India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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It's really horrific... How... Just one cricket match... a fucking inconsequential cricket match having no relevance to security & Geopolitics has exposed so many faultlines in our country(just have a look at media reports)... what would a war do? Where are we?
This should be celebrated if you have decided your end game now. Many fence-sitters will see it through and join the forces.

This is a momentum which must be channelised by serious and focused leaders.
 

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It's really horrific... How... Just one cricket match... a fucking inconsequential cricket match having no relevance to security & Geopolitics has exposed so many faultlines in our country(just have a look at media reports)... what would a war do? Where are we?
> Indian T20 team takes a knee for BLM, draws flak from sections of people
> Pakistani T20 team places hand on heart
> On Pakistan winning, videos & photos of some Indian citizens celebrating Pakistani win arise
> Large sections condemn this, including two well known former cricketers, who subsequently get attacked by another section for bigotry
> Some students outraged by a certain section celebrating Pakistani victory, respond violently, a section of media sides with the celebrating section by hiding the reason for the scuffle & thereby providing a narrative & not "the news"
> Some say Pakistan is not the enemy, claim we are just neighbors

This cricket thingy has been like this for some time. Yes, SM amplifies stuff but the underlying fault-line exists.

Anti-Modism can easily turn into anti-India narrative for these sections.
 

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It's really horrific... How... Just one cricket match... a fucking inconsequential cricket match having no relevance to security & Geopolitics has exposed so many faultlines in our country(just have a look at media reports)... what would a war do? Where are we?
It is advent of social media.. This kind of thing is nothing new . I have witnessed this in 90s . It used to happen before as well . India had always such issues . Info war making this more magnified . Nothing to be stressed abt .
 

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It's really horrific... How... Just one cricket match... a fucking inconsequential cricket match having no relevance to security & Geopolitics has exposed so many faultlines in our country(just have a look at media reports)... what would a war do? Where are we?
Don't worry. These fence-sitters will be slapped back to reality if anything really happens. The comfort of staying away from conflict and danger inevitably makes you a dhimmi. The protected lot will very well see the reality or will perish in the process.
 

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It's really horrific... How... Just one cricket match... a fucking inconsequential cricket match having no relevance to security & Geopolitics has exposed so many faultlines in our country(just have a look at media reports)... what would a war do? Where are we?
2.5 front wasn't coined out of thin air. It was coined by people who knew about the ground realities of the namakharams in India. I saw Muslims in Hyderabad celebrating Pakistan victory 15 years ago when Hindu nationalism didn't even exist.

The good thing is, they can be wiped out with minimum damages if the Indian state gives the radicals in the majority community a freehand. So far, Indian state has treated the namakharams as equal to Hindus. Learn from Bangladesh. The state doesn't interfere immediately and let's the Jihadis have a go at the minorties.

Don't restrain radical Hindus in India. Don't file cases on them if they go after the namakharams.
 

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What if Poonch like infiltrations props up in at multiple points at the same time, what should be our strategy than?

Yes you are right, time taking ops should not be any factor as it can push the casualties on our side.
I generally avoid talking operational tactics. You should read my views on Indian army posturing along border with China as we are ready to go kinetic any time soon.

The situation in Kashmir should be different. We should be fortified in every township, village and ridge with institutions actively working on de-radicalizing the population and replacing the population.


@RoaringTigerHiddenDragon has made some observation in above link which touch upon few operational shortcomings.

The worst-case scenario here will be a company level infiltration. Or we have got a breakthrough of isolating a massive training camp inside our border.

In surgery we say treatment of compression is decompression. Here if they are fortified in bunkers then we must soften them before start flushing them out or risk more body bags. This is a sub strategic buildup comprising our grid and it must be decompressed.

With imminent threat to their lives they will go suicidal or already moving out, dispersing and running back to Pakistan.

The tactical outcome of this operation should be not to allow them back into our main townships and push them back towards Pakistan. Looks like this what our forces are doing.
 

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Yo listen @BON PLAN your take about this?

Yes. It is the famous "grand remplacement"....
Zemmour try to open the left aisle eyes. It's not easy. At least he forces the classical politic professional to discuss of this kind of subjects hidden since 40 years.
It's not over if we make a clever choice in 2022 President election.
 

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Issue hw would army ensure next time this will not happen ?
As long as govt & top IA brass are content with the defensive posture & sacrificing precious soldiers without raising the cost for each terror attack, this cannot be prevented.
 

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