India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[THESIS THORON]

America has an immediate effect of over 7 billion dollars for Pakistan (1 billion dollar tranche from IMF, remaining 5-6 billion dollars loan from WB plus ADB, this all was budgeted in the capital inflow of their budget). That makes them good to go for now.

Their circular debt limit threshold is somewhere 20-22 billion dollars, if they can manage that amount they can get out of that. Those numbers are still manageable if America wants it- some in the form of FIs intervention, some thru "investment"s from Saudis, and a lot Pakis are willing to sell to anyone (especially the Chinese)

so only option left is to drag them into war .

 

[Sehwag231]

If America is willing to help economically even after Afghanistan debacle and knowing that Pak is in China camp then QUAD is a fraud and Americans are two timing us.

 

[Covfefe]

Their annihilation is not worth the misery it'll put Indians in. We have something good going on for us, why to throw all that away to kill those who are rotting anyway? Their survival is their curse, let it be. Pakistani elite willl stay maze mein, just that the size of those elite will keep reducing.

Eg- A Paki earning 1 lakh rupees a month is a lower medium to a medium class guy today, such is the inflation

so only option left is to drag them into war .

 

[Covfefe]

If America is willing to help economically even after Afghanistan debacle and knowing that Pak is in China camp then QUAD is a fraud and Americans are two timing us.

Americans two-time everyone, that's how they work. Even with their staunch enemies (like Iran), they will keep some window/ facade of conversation/ engagement always open in public (like discussions over JCPOA). That's how they work. What we can take out of this alliance is up to us, not the Americans.

It is a matter of shame for Pakistan that it could not reap any solid benefit out of its alliance with the West for decades and they are still exporting donkeys today. Alliance was, obviously, interest-based. Hope that we don't get any wrong ideas of values-based world order, and repeat the same mistake.

 

[ezsasa]

If America is willing to help economically even after Afghanistan debacle and knowing that Pak is in China camp then QUAD is a fraud and Americans are two timing us.

“acting in self interest” is perhaps a better phrase than “two timing”, murican geography their standing in world order provides them with options that other countries don’t have.

As a world power, they don’t like surprises. they’ll do anything to ensure they don’t get a surprise again from this region.

 

[Deathstar]

I ll suggest a simple solution-- patience. Circle the entire forests, absolute shut from all sides. Instead of surveying the foresrts , keep a look on entry points into and out from the forest. Choke their supply routes. And wait. Let them starve to death

 

[Viper316]

so only option left is to drag them into war .

Just keep LOC hot and busy for next 1 year, it is as simple as that. Pokistan will go complete bankrupt if we force them to use their maximum resources on LOC. Once the economy drain out, their jernails will be running to settle in foreign nations, soldiers will retreat BOP will be ungaurded. But chinese dogs deployed troops at LAC on behest of porks, the plan is chinese wanted to save their CPEC investment in pokistan, they very well know pokistan wud fall in matter of time if not backed-up

 

[Gtmbisht82]

Paki pasmanda can wakeup with a goat dick in his mouth, thinking he is a turk, arab, mughal...at the end of the day he is a real nuisance which cost live's of dindu. Kashmir pasmanda are celebrating pakjabi victory at dindu funded Med school like always....as if education going to change anything. It only make them more sophisticated more cunning.
Remind me of this Rathores ki fauj kadhi karne pade gi dubara.

This was expected from Kashmiris but how abt this one from Punjabi university where I see some sikhs/hindus celebrating Pakistani victory and shouting kissan majdoor ekta zindabad… bc India k harne pe itni khushi wo bhee in the name of Kisan Andolan… gazab hutiyapa he

 

[Tridev123]

Their thermal capability is very well known. Shouldn't it catch the human body temperature with ease, at least during the night time, considering the surroundings would be cooler ?

I would think that medium altitude long endurance (MALE) drones could prove useful. They should be equipped with thermal cameras, synthetic aperture radar which can penetrate foliage and other optical sensors. Flying time 24 to 48 hrs will enable continuous surveillance. The SAR will enable the drone to work even in the night or in cloudy conditions.

Using such unmanned platforms will be cost effective.

If it can be armed with an LDP and LGB's or laser guided missiles it would allow the operator to take out targets once identified. Or may be two drones working in tandem - one only for surveillance and target identification and another armed drone for acting on the data collected by the ISR drone and taking out targets. The Laser Designation Pod will illuminate the target and help the missile or bomb to home in and explode. In an ideal scenario.

There will be a lot of variables involved and everything may not go 100% as planned. But if the chances of success are even 50% then the option can be explored. The armed drone will be sent only if an target can be identified.

Will not be easy. Perhaps like looking for a needle in a haystack. But we could get lucky.

Also monitoring the electro magnetic spectrum can prove useful. If the terrorists are using satellite phones, then maybe the location of the phones can be tracked down. Doubt whether normal mobile phones will be used. Also it is assumed that the terrorists communications will be in encrypted form. If underground optical fibre cables are being used for communication then it suggests the involvement of some official agencies of hostile governments.

 

[Sehwag231]

@mist_consecutive
Can we surround them from all sides or the area is too big ?

 

[Indrajit]

Effing 15th day

You can complain about unnecessary casualties or a longer time frame, not both. I have no problems if they take as much time as they need, no reason to take casualties by pushing it.

 

[mokoman]

Indian army does use Tonbo Imaging survilence system. Don't know if it is getting used in this encounter.

nice . i think we also started using these for LAC as well.

i was talking about thermal cams on drones tho.

 

[vidhwanshak]

Kashmiri students allegedly attacked in Punjab colleges after India vs Pakistan match

Students from Bhai Gurdas Institute of Engineering and Technology in Punjab’s Sangrur district shared videos of the “attack” from inside their hostel post the match. Similar reports also came in from the Rayat Bahrat University in Kharar.

indianexpress.com

some good news

 

[avknight1408]

Indian army does use Tonbo Imaging survilence system. Don't know if it is getting used in this encounter.

nice . i think we also started using these for LAC as well.

i was talking about thermal cams on drones tho.

I had posted this image last year. Tonbo claimed they were being used in Ladakh LAC.


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[Spitfire9]

Yo listen @BON PLAN your take about this?

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Ce qu'il dit est de la merde (he is talking shit). Some figures from 2016:

About 50% of French were Christian
About 40% of French were non-religious
About 5% of French were Muslim

An Islamic republic by 2050? C'est une blague (that's a joke).

Religion in France - Wikipedia

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[Assassin 2.0]

Bihar students took care of sleeper cells quite effectively.

 

[Spitfire9]

but the amt of loan they have taken from china, imo even amreeka would not be able to do much.

they are fcuked up. they have crossed all the limits, so imo there will be no revival.

Just for info...

Debt to GDP Ratio 2021
Pakistan 77%
India 69%

Source:

National Debt by Country / Countries with the Highest National Debt 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[IndianYonko]

Just for info...

Debt to GDP Ratio 2021
Pakistan 77%
India 69%

Source:

National Debt by Country / Countries with the Highest National Debt 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Country List Government Debt to GDP

This page displays a table with actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, statistics and historical data charts for - Country List Government Debt to GDP. This page provides values for Government Debt to GDP reported in several countries. The table has current values for Government Debt to...

tradingeconomics.com

there are other factors involved too. Japan is at 266% but is Japan's economy worst in the whole world?

 

[ezsasa]

Just for info...

Debt to GDP Ratio 2021
Pakistan 77%
India 69%

Source:

National Debt by Country / Countries with the Highest National Debt 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

what does this mean or rather what is it that you are trying to say?