India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021)

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But now things are changing , US is the best bet not because they are good , they are fucking snakes but they are the only ally which can make a difference to this region vis a vis china
US needs influence in this IOR region and India is the only country which can counterbalance china , so we must milk those snakes as much as possible .. China did it , Pakistan did it so should India
With Biden in White House, I don't see it happening.
Biden son's sex tapes are with China and Russia and US Top General will inform China before attacking it.

Balakot like strikes was possible because Trump was at White House.

(PS- strictly not a diehard Trump fan)
 

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Because US itself covertly supports it

His point is totally right and wrong

Yes US built Pakistan but not counter weight USSR
In Afghanistan
India never choose to submit as vassal as porkies
US national interest

US policy to appeasement China is to counter
Developing
SINO-USSR bloc that was rising in Future purely on its national interest

Well US allowing Afghanistan captured by Taliban
Purely because immediate interest rather any larger role
It want its presence in That Geopolitical area near Russia

That is why they made Pakistan which player in Afghanistan
To options
And Pakistan like pimp is offering the way where it benefits Them and there masters in long
Run

Point to be noted in all Scenarios shows how less
Indian Geopolitical
Relevance was in the past
Due to its meek Non alignment and Socialistic model of Governance and foreign policies
Which made it irrelevant in global geopolitics



In all scenarios Fault lies with Indian Approach and state policy rather US
Which serves it's own national interest.

Point even today India is unclear whether it is a non aligned power or Allied
 

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His point is totally right and wrong

Yes US built Pakistan but not counter weight USSR
In Afghanistan
India never choose to submit as vassal as porkies
US national interest

US policy to appeasement China is to counter
Developing
SINO-USSR bloc that was rising in Future purely on its national interest

Well US allowing Afghanistan captured by Taliban
Purely because immediate interest rather any larger role
It want its presence in That Geopolitical area near Russia

That is why they made Pakistan which player in Afghanistan
To options
And Pakistan like pimp is offering the way where it benefits Them and there masters in long
Run

Point to be noted in all Scenarios shows how less
Indian Geopolitical
Relevance was in the past
Due to its meek Non alignment and Socialistic model of Governance and foreign policies
Which made it irrelevant in global geopolitics



In all scenarios Fault lies with Indian Approach and state policy rather US
Which serves it's own national interest.

Point even today India is unclear whether it is a non aligned power or Allied

First of all why should India be pawn for the Great Game between US and China?

US wants India to counterbalance China and in turn US wants Pakistan to counterbalance India, all can see this cat & mouse game clearly.

US and China were going for a G2 like arrangement when Trump came from nowhere and spoiled the grand plan.

Allignment with US means becoming the junior partner just like NATO countries, and will have to fight endless wars along with them.

Biden administration will continue shadowboxing with China, and the fact remains that top tier CCP member's sons and daughter are studying or working in US.
 

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With Biden in White House, I don't see it happening.
Biden son's sex tapes are with China and Russia and US Top General will inform China before attacking it.

Balakot like strikes was possible because Trump was at White House.

(PS- strictly not a diehard Trump fan)
Their lives are an open secret.

Americans survive on two highs - Sex and Sports.

Rest is just a hobby.

Hunter tapes will not do any damage to Biden or Hunter's political career... that too at a time when woke American society has washed its morals down the gutter.
 

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From the Article,

In this light, I fear that the targeted killings of non-Muslims in the Kashmir Valley over the past fortnight could be a preparatory step for something much bigger.

Whatever's coming, its planners don't want their argument about a 'Muslim region' diluted.

Of course, a hopelessly ill-prepared and uninformed State apparatus is doing exactly what those planners would have scripted. They are corralling those poor targets in secure camps in Kashmir, from where they are facilitating their transfer elsewhere.

Ironically, many of the Kashmiri Pandits among them were ushered back into the Valley by the same clueless State apparatus over the past year after the Chinese turned up in Ladakh.

It's all tragically witless. Those in charge don't seem to see the big picture.

I've predicted for more than a decade that China, Pakistan, and street unrest in Kashmir would converge as a terribly lethal threat to national security.

I've also predicted for a decade that the (then covert) Doha talks of the US with the Taliban's representative would lead to the US handing Afghanistan back to the Taliban, and Afghans would then lethally invade Kashmir. A decade ago!
 

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First of all why should India be pawn for the Great Game between US and China?

US wants India to counterbalance China and in turn US wants Pakistan to counterbalance India, all can see this cat & mouse game clearly.

US and China were going for a G2 like arrangement when Trump came from nowhere and spoiled the grand plan.

Allignment with US means becoming the junior partner just like NATO countries, and will have to fight endless wars along with them.

Biden administration will continue shadowboxing with China, and the fact remains that top tier CCP member's sons and daughter are studying or working in US.
Well I m not advocated US alignment
I just explained

US national interest is different from Indian national interest.

India has to choose its own path and own Doctrine
Based on circumstances.

Patience and long term statergic planning is the key element here

What serve our current goals and how will we pave the way from current Doctrine to the future global
Geopolitics
 

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You just forget that christian mothers are making less than 2 child when muslim ones are largely upper.
You just forget that 90+% of the immigration in France came from muslim countries (algeria, morocco, black africa).
Well question remains who enable this mess. Take someone who never lived a multi cultural society and welcomed them. Who thought this would be a good idea.
An immigration based on real need of French society was discarded ifo let anyone idiot come in, resulting in to sharia compliant zones.
I follow the news what Zemmour says is harsh but true. I laugh seeing the taqqiya being practiced by arabs on TV. it so flagrant yet many believing them.

So it may hurt you, but it's a threat as seen by many french. The french whose origins are centenials, whose old tress built Versailles, Le Louvre, Eiffel tower and so one.
So I am. And so I think.
No it does not hurt any one. We also believe India is a for Hindu civilization where former colonial powers such as France or British do not have any place. But I think your story of white france is already history, abdul are procreating at faster rate and difficult to undo this now.
 

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Ye aadmi hai kee payjama
By that logic Russia and Taliban can never be allies because of thier past
It might be a surprise but Strategic shift do take place. In past US was anti India and the reason was India itself , instead of allying with US we started loser aligned movement and became Soviet vasal state. So please it was us who decided not to chose a side.
But now things are changing , US is the best bet not because they are good , they are fucking snakes but they are the only ally which can make a difference to this region vis a vis china
US needs influence in this IOR region and India is the only country which can counterbalance china , so we must milk those snakes as much as possible .. China did it , Pakistan did it so should India
I think we may need to change the way we think of Americans. Gone are the days when they were all powerful and were able to influence everything in the world. America of future is a lame country with sold out thinking, messed internally.
And India can never rely on Americans, just take advantage of them whenever you can, like they do. Those assholes would not think for a moment if they have any advantage by betraying you.
 

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Let's play more cricket

For Pakistanis, winning in Cricket match against India is a part of Gazwa-e-Hind

Guys can we push the cricket discussion to other threads, it's really petty how much pakis are amplifying as some muzzrat victory and indians reacting to it. It's just a match and rest of the issues which revolve around it have been discussed to the death.

What happens during match is just a symptom of the disease which plagues the lands of this subcontinent, let's focus on that in the thread which are dedicated for. Just my opinion.

Why are Indians surprised and want to expose for the n-th time that a religion which doesn't care about 'State' where, nationalism is against it would not have people who will see it as a religious victory than anything else? It's futile to waste time on that especially on a thread where we can focus on important issues.

Modi turned out to be a maha white-validation-seeker. We expected a doberman, but got a labrador instead.

No one saw it coming.
Modi is a pro-business guy, he will make the deal with the devil if it means that we are getting a good deal. Of course BJP has a nationalist agenda (or at least they pretend to have one) but expecting something in a country filled with dhimmis is just waste of time.

At the end of the dayyou are repeating the same thing which has been stated thousand times on the forum, it's better either we move on to solutions if we really want to discuss anything or just ignore it altogether and let the things take care of on their own.

Why are you surprised that a state which imposes secularism down the throat of every Hindu(only them) has a leader which has to act as a secular? In the age of globalism you will have to make the deal with all sorts of people including countries your people hate. It's time to stop whining about every step, if you don't know that's what your enemy want too. If you want to understand look at USA under Trump, same thing is happening.
 

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It's futile to waste time on that especially on a thread where we can focus on important issues.
You see all these events are inter-connected, you cannot isolate anyone if it.

The Pakistan's win against India has revealed the snakes amongst us (that doesn't means that it was not present before), just the medium of SM has amplified this and brought it to light.

Sooner the Hindus, especially the Dhimmi crowd realises that this is indeed a Civilisational War, the more safer the world will be for them.

Do not ignore this just because it's a cricket match, but study the narratives that goes along with it aftermath. And this is itself an important issue.
 
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From the Article,

In this light, I fear that the targeted killings of non-Muslims in the Kashmir Valley over the past fortnight could be a preparatory step for something much bigger.

Whatever's coming, its planners don't want their argument about a 'Muslim region' diluted.

Of course, a hopelessly ill-prepared and uninformed State apparatus is doing exactly what those planners would have scripted. They are corralling those poor targets in secure camps in Kashmir, from where they are facilitating their transfer elsewhere.

Ironically, many of the Kashmiri Pandits among them were ushered back into the Valley by the same clueless State apparatus over the past year after the Chinese turned up in Ladakh.

It's all tragically witless. Those in charge don't seem to see the big picture.

I've predicted for more than a decade that China, Pakistan, and street unrest in Kashmir would converge as a terribly lethal threat to national security.

I've also predicted for a decade that the (then covert) Doha talks of the US with the Taliban's representative would lead to the US handing Afghanistan back to the Taliban, and Afghans would then lethally invade Kashmir. A decade ago!
Dang! This is really painful to read...
 

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it's a myth that rajputs used to have numbers. Most of this come from muslim sources who try to exaggerate things to show them all mighty powerful.
Only few time rajputs manage to field substantial numbers & that to when one clan try to expand on the expense of other or when few of them were united against ola-hu-uber!...it was either suicide cavalry charges in open fields ( Rathores were famous for it ) or a retreat to fortified position in hills.
Turks had a decisive advantage of steppe nomadic warfare specially horse archers & Central asian horse breeds were better period... combined that with call for jihad, it's a disaster.
Rajputs usually tried to force them to close combat & whenever that happened...Turks, afghans, arabs were usually routed almost every time.
civfanatic from historum... did some number crunching from muslim records to estimate Ghurid forces size.


Regarding numbers.



Prithviraj himself was no Saint either. He didn't help when Ghurid try to invade Gujarat.
where turks & Afghans were hammered to death by coilation of rajputs...Chaulukyas , Chauhans of Nadol jalor & parmars of Abu.

Virendra Singh Rathore did a video on this clearing some myth including jaichand being a traitor, love stories of Prithviraj.
Ghurid being spared 17 times ( a myth ). He was spared only once.
I mean how many people know that Ghurid payed tribute to chahuans of delhi for some time.
Of course Prithviraj was no saint...

He had no dearth of beauties in his "अंतः पुर" (Rajput version of harem)... still he lost one of his most able general "चण्ड पुंडीर" in a bid to capture samyukta(daughter of Jaichand)... "चण्ड पुंडीर" was the governor of the Punjab portion of Prithviraj's domain... this had a negative impact on the psyche of Pundir Rajputs who were dominant in Punjab & of course further anatagonised Jaichand

Between 1191 & 1192 he himself got killed another of his general "कैमास" bcoz the latter had a secret affair with Prithviraj's favourite concubine "कर्नाटकी"

& not many know this... the victor of 1st battle of Tarain was "Govindraja Tomar"... who was representing Prithviraj on battlefield

In the 2nd battle of Tarain... After the killing of "Govindraja Tomar" & "Pajjawan Rai"(Ruler of Amber)... 2 of the largest allied forces of Chauhans were routed & the result was known to all

One more thing that costed dearly... "the tradition of fighting between sunrise & sunset" as per Mahabharat. Ghurids were not bound by those rules... they attacked in early morning hours & caught the Rajput forces Off-guard... rest is history


Above is based on original "Prithviraj Raso" by Chand Bardai... sorry I don't believe Mullah sources.
 

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Kashmir : Terrorists have issued an open threat against all those who have filed cases or provided information on Pro Pakistan sloganeering after Sunday Cricket match


An 24 hour ultimatum has been issued by terrorists

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Wait wait
So the students who ratted out their comrades are going to be greased????
 

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CBI has arrested a serving Indian Navy officer, Commander rank, along with two retired ones in connection with “unauthorised sharing of info” in connection with a submarine project
I guess this is a case of corruption rather than espionage. The arrest has been made by CBI's anti corruption unit. If espionage then the arrest would have been by Special cell or NIA.
Interesting to note that CBI sources say the investigation started with tip off from intel agencies. The accused were detained in September but they are announcing it in October end. 🤔
 
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can we stop giving undue importance to specific british origin game which happened two days ago between two former british colonized lands?

PAK is roughly= UP of India in size and economically lower than TN

porkies are small minded people overflow with just islam who enjoy little things only like 1match win, twitter trolling and donkey selling

LETS START DISCUSSING DEFENCE MATTERS AGAIN
 

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