India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Can apache helicopters be used here in this scenario ?
Can be used once terrorists are spotted, locating them is the main thing. They have dug in somewhere, probably caves or underground , away from the eyes of drones or any thing else. Tricky situation indeed.
 

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How to you locate them in thick forest?
You need target identification and then neutralising can be done even with a mortar or arty strike.
Their thermal capability is very well known. Shouldn't it catch the human body temperature with ease, at least during the night time, considering the surroundings would be cooler ?
 

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How to you locate them in thick forest?
You need target identification and then neutralising can be done even with a mortar or arty strike.
Does India have policy to engage Offensive Air Assets on its own territory during peace time? Last time we saw this was at Mizoram in the 80's.
 
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Their thermal capability is very well known. Shouldn't it catch the human body temperature with ease, at least during the night time, considering the surroundings would be cooler ?
They can wrap sheet dipped in cold water to hide from thermals. And they are probably dug in caves or underground rooms, with OGWs helping them with supplies.
 

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They can wrap sheet dipped in cold water to hide from thermals. And they are probably dug in caves or underground rooms, with OGWs helping them with supplies.
Do you feel arty shelling in and around the area would bring them out. I know it is a random thought, but would it work in this case? It might create thermal disturbance, but at least the targets should be out in open.
 

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Do you feel arty shelling in and around the area would bring them out. I know it is a random thought, but would it work in this case? It might create thermal disturbance, but at least the targets should be out in open.
Some mortars or lfg were fired, if terrorists have been there for months, most likely they would have dug in bunker-like structures.
 

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Do you feel arty shelling in and around the area would bring them out. I know it is a random thought, but would it work in this case? It might create thermal disturbance, but at least the targets should be out in open.
Even if we keep aside the fundamental points that why should we do arty strike on our own Territory.

theoretically problem remains the same, this area would be several hundred sq km. even arty needs a grid number to strike, without knowing what exactly to strike where would they strike?

Either way this is a good scenario for IA to learn from, hopefully next time IA will develop some tech & tactics to handle this scenario .
 

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Even if we keep aside the fundamental points that why should we do arty strike on our own Territory.

theoretically problem remains the same, this area would be several hundred sq km. even arty needs a grid number to strike, without knowing what exactly to strike where would they strike?

Either way this is a good scenario for IA to learn from, hopefully next time IA will develop some tech & tactics to handle this scenario .
haven't ia deployed survillance cams in jungle ??
 

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Few points...

1. so much of brain-fucking meltdown on a loss in a "cricket" match across all SM platforms... a game played by barely 14 nations... Even after this victory paki currency is still going down

2. There was a news report: "Pakis asking for US help in managing relations with India in return for airspace/airbase for Afghan operations"... some chootiya journalist deliberately underplayed what's going on in reality: "Pakis (backed by Chinese money) lobbying hard to make the US threaten India with CAATSA to stop S-400 induction & are employing all possible means"
 

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2. There was a news report: "Pakis asking for US help in managing relations with India in return for airspace/airbase for Afghan operations"... some chootiya underplayed what's going on in reality: "Pakis (backed by Chinese money) lobbying hard to make the US threaten India with CAATSA to stop S-400 induction & are employing all possible means
Pakis are not asking the US to threaten India with sanctions for S400, they know the worth of their diplomatic capital. They are asking for an economic revival and some cool off time(peace talks, gale milna BS) to retrench their positions against India. And they are ready to be their whores again in Afghanistan in lieu of the same.
 

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Few points...

1. so much of brain-fucking meltdown on a loss in a "cricket" match across all SM platforms... a game played by barely 14 nations... Even after this victory paki currency is still going down

2. There was a news report: "Pakis asking for US help in managing relations with India in return for airspace/airbase for Afghan operations"... some chootiya underplayed what's going on in reality: "Pakis (backed by Chinese money) lobbying hard to make the US threaten India with CAATSA to stop S-400 induction & are employing all possible means"
having meltdown is not bad untill is too much, same logic applies to games never support 1 game too much.
which is problem in india.

it is a funkin game if you play one day you will lose, and this is a feat that pakis lost all matches exept 1 (now one).


thats it
 

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Pakis are not asking the US to threaten India with sanctions for S400, they know the worth of their diplomatic capital. They are asking for an economic revival and some cool off time(peace talks, gale milna BS) to retrench their positions against India. And they are ready to be their whores again in Afghanistan in lieu of the same.
but the amt of loan they have taken from china, imo even amreeka would not be able to do much.

they are fcuked up. they have crossed all the limits, so imo there will be no revival.
 

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Pakis are not asking the US to threaten India with sanctions for S400, they know the worth of their diplomatic capital. They are asking for an economic revival and some cool off time(peace talks, gale milna BS) to retrench their positions against India. And they are ready to be their whores again in Afghanistan in lieu of the same.
Pakistan is in a deep Economic trouble, they know it. Coming 2 to 3 years will be completely menacing for them.

Signs are showing.
 

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but the amt of loan they have taken from china, imo even amreeka would not be able to do much.

they are fcuked up. they have crossed all the limits, so imo there will be no revival.
America has an immediate effect of over 7 billion dollars for Pakistan (1 billion dollar tranche from IMF, remaining 5-6 billion dollars loan from WB plus ADB, this all was budgeted in the capital inflow of their budget). That makes them good to go for now.

Their circular debt limit threshold is somewhere 20-22 billion dollars, if they can manage that amount they can get out of that. Those numbers are still manageable if America wants it- some in the form of FIs intervention, some thru "investment"s from Saudis, and a lot Pakis are willing to sell to anyone (especially the Chinese)
 

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