India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021)

here2where

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Militants working in two teams of 4-6 each. Each team broken up into 2 member engagement units, and executing fire and maneuver drills while engaging.

Militants are using ambush and counter ambush drills. All the ambushes are designed around providing overlapping lanes of fire. Good weapons discipline by the bloody bastards. Holding fire till IA units come within 25-50m. Suggests previous combat experience. This is why IA troops are getting overwhelmed in firefights. Accurate Fire coming in high volumes from multiple directions in close quarters to create kill boxes and cause high kill count. We believe militants are using satellite communications with Combat commanders across LOC who are directing the firefight. No communications jamming on site by IA.

Militants are also changing position after every firefight, with IA being unable thus far to fix them in position. In such circumstances IA has few options. Chemical weapons would be the ideal strategy to force the militants hands.
It does look extremely lopsided -> a battalion of armed-to-the-teeth-with-high-tech-weaponary and extremely-well-trained-at-great-expense personnel getting into a skirmish with a few loose-change-easily-replaceable-salwars and coming back bloody nosed.

We do have a serious problem at hand.
 

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Such incidents would continue to happen unless we take strong stance, we learnt many from Israel , this time let's learn from russian in dealing with these terrorists, wipe out entire family of terrorists involved in terrorist activities. Send strong message to them.
 

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There is an old saying in our local
"Don't teach your father, how to sleep with your mother!!!"
Here I can see no of keyboard warriors suggesting our defence forces, "you should do this/that". Cheap internet really sucks...

May God be with our Defense Forces!!!

Best Regards
Kya baat kar rahe hain Sir, in logon ko Raksha Mantri bana do, 24 ghante ke andar Tiranga Peshawar mein lehra raha hoga.

I was just amazed at the classic mental disintegration displayed by some members in the past few days. If we cannot digest 9 casualties, I shudder to think what would happen in case of a full fledged war!
 

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With veterans like these, who needs enemies.

Those 15 terrorists were lost in different encounters.

What if a jeep carrying RR men hit a landmine or an IED resulting in 9 deaths. Would he still call it an even contest?
Exactly, these guys are talking as if they had access to live feed straight from the encounter site and they could see what was going on. I think, these retired jarnails and kernails should just avoid posting such comments on SM.
 

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Exactly, these guys are talking as if they had access live feed straight from the encounter site and they could see what was going on. I think, these retired jarnails and kernails should just avoid posting such comments on SM.
This kind of reaction can be passed up if its made by civilians or lower level grunts, not from a full fledged Col. if he is indeed one with at least 16-17 years of service in the IA.
 

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Saab the real issues lies with their lack of understanding of science/engineering and synergy between army and drdo

army always wanted capability far greater/equivalent to mq9.

THEY PREFER EXPONENTIAL JUMP OVER INCREMENTAL JUMP. NO ONE COUNTRY HAS DONE THE FORMER WITHOUT INTENSE SCIENTIFIC RIGOUR.

Let's take the example of AD Systems....
Trishul---> failed
Akash ---> failed

Started astra had multiple propulsion failures and teamed with Israelis for MRSAM (Actually I've heard PKS saying that it was a waste of money, seems like we had the tech however given the urgency for forces we signed the agreement).
Now we have world class capabilities except for XRSAM and a cycle less in propulsion and radar tech.

Neither did TURKEY build baktyar drone of the blue, started operationalising with reduced capabilities and improved it overtime.

Drdo is equally to blame, but RUSTOM 1 is better than nothing.

Last but not the least, BABU AND CLUELESS POLITICIANS should be serious 'cause change can only come from the top of the hierarchy
Akash kab fail hua bhai!!!....aise hi lagi padi hai ab aur tum band mat bajao..
 

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