India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021)

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My guess- Aks and PKM lmg with scopes, RPG, special body armour to evade thermal imaging (they have done it before), Chinese steel bullets which no bpj can stop. They are one step ahead of our Army in tactics, better trained than our regular soldiers.
Army has BPJs that can stop even 7.62x51 .I think the heavy forested terrain was the main issue.and they had a high defenders position
 

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There's too many weak people in this forum.

Some bloodshed and the meltdown proceeds.

Chinese release a video from a year back and the meltdown proceeds.

The IA will adjust and recalibrate. The dynamics have changed and they will adjust to it.
That I pretty sure .IA adapts to its challenges
 

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My guess- Aks and PKM lmg with scopes, RPG, special body armour to evade thermal imaging (they have done it before), Chinese steel bullets which no bpj can stop. They are one step ahead of our Army in tactics, better trained than our regular soldiers.
We were caught in an ambush and in such a scenario the defender who has occupied the place has the tactical advantage, even if a moderately trained militant is given a kalashnikov and is well entrenched can do a lot of damage by squeezing of rounds after rounds against well trained soldiers.I dont believe that they are better trained than our soldiers they are just better than the average jihadi, most probably fidayeens who are well trained in guerilla combat.
 

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Let's wait for the picture to get more clear about this ops. If those terrorist killed are from the Taliban side, then this would be a very alarming situation not only for J and K but for the country as a whole.
I don’t think even one terrorist has been confirmed killed there.
 

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CDS ko ghanta farak padta hai. He’s busy enjoying whiskey on rocks at one of his bungalows in Delhi
There is a reason Infantry officers and troops under his command respected him. People are taking what he said out of context.

This is going to happen again, Army generals warned that Afghanistan spillover is going to take India back to the days of 90s insurgencies. It's nothing new. It's going to repeat. That's what he meant.

He spent 10 years in Counter insurgency, Company commander in Sopore and later Brigadier in Uri I think. And this was at the height of insurgency.
 

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Everything is a volunteers job, including that of the CEO.

If Modi refuses to be the PM tonight, no force on earth can force him to.

People get offer letters from multiple companies and eventually act upon the best offer. That is also called volunteering. A soldier volunteers to show up at a recruitment rally but from there on, it is as professional as it can get. It is also a job only with far greater responsibilities.

You think the man who waves a green flag at the railway signal holds a less responsible job? A slight mistake on his part could cost hundreds of lives.

A soldier signs up to serve his country. While volunteering to be at the border, not only is he protecting his family far away in the hinterland, he is extending the same service to others.
Combat conditions is Uncertain actions
Ambush counter
Ambush is
Part of job

Military Is trained To do These jobs
If modi have to think 🤔
Local Corps Level operations in insurgency areas
Then
Having such huge army is waste

Rest all your arguments is uncenessary related insurgency
In kashmir

Infiltration is a 3 decades old phenomenon in kashmir
And casualties and counter casualties is part of Soldiers life when he Deployed in kashmir or any insurgency areas including Moaist areas
 
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Militants working in two teams of 4-6 each. Each team broken up into 2 member engagement units, and executing fire and maneuver drills while engaging.

Militants are using ambush and counter ambush drills. All the ambushes are designed around providing overlapping lanes of fire. Good weapons discipline by the bloody bastards. Holding fire till IA units come within 25-50m. Suggests previous combat experience. This is why IA troops are getting overwhelmed in firefights. Accurate Fire coming in high volumes from multiple directions in close quarters to create kill boxes and cause high kill count. We believe militants are using satellite communications with Combat commanders across LOC who are directing the firefight. No communications jamming on site by IA.

Militants are also changing position after every firefight, with IA being unable thus far to fix them in position. In such circumstances IA has few options. Chemical weapons would be the ideal strategy to force the militants hands.
 

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In all honesty, are we are not aware of the actual numbers of terrorists entrenched there. I think it's the important time we stop quoting any random osint claiming random bs and wait for official information to happen.

We have snipers, thermal imagers and there's no doubt army is putting those to use. Let's wait for the picture to get clear before jumping to conclusions like muh Kargil 2.0 kek.

Few pages back someone mentioned that at least 11 or around similar terrorists were killed in Poonch region by para sf, what happened to that? Was it correct? Not talking about the report from JKP, i am assuming both are different cases.
Ur right, I believe that pig rats had dug waaay back, however due to ceasefire/political shit army let them be.

Now that shit has hit the fan, I believe we panicked.

Still ceasefire doesn't make sense?? :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
 

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Combat conditions is Uncertain actions
Ambush counter
Ambush is
Part of job

Military Is trained To do These jobs
If modi have think 🤔
Local Corps Level operations in insurgency areas
Then
Having such huge army is waste

Rest all your arguments is uncenessary insurgency
In kashmir

Infiltration is a 3 decades old phenomenon in kashmir
And casualties and counter casualties is part of Soldiers life when he Deployed in kashmir or any insurgency areas including Moaist areas
Whoever says infiltration is a 3 decades old phenomenon should stop posting on the topic, take a break, read the history of insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir and then come back to make sweeping generalizations.
 

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Whoever says infiltration is a 3 decades old phenomenon should stop posting on the topic, take a break, read the history of insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir and then come back to make sweeping generalizations.
Please elaborate.

I'm thoroughly confused by your statement.
 

WARREN SS

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Whoever says infiltration is a 3 decades old phenomenon should stop posting on the topic, take a break, read the history of insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir and then come back to make sweeping generalizations.
You getting agitated for needless reasons
Such casualties happened
Regularly in Kashmir

Just minimized after removal of
370

Afghanistan situation changed dynamics
For this year
Soon military will recalibrate and adjust
According to New situations
 

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