India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Questions should be asked here, "whether we want PoK and PoJK with or without people"?

If without people, than how to achieve it? and if with people, than how to handle the massive demography change?
We dont need to capture whole PoK as we need to accept their population & will be a nightmare. It would be wise to capture linear portion of land starting from Drass stretching along until Afghan border. A stretegic path will ensure we reaching to Central Asia and separates china-pak connectivity. But even if it is 10% of PoK we must be ready to pay huge price. Current leadership in GOI might not even have prepared a road map, all statements are mere election propoganda
 

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Remember 6 names (Low hanging fruits)
1. Olthinthang
2. Fraono
3. Siari
4. Goma
5. Gyari
6. Neelam

Total of above: 8300 square kilometers approx... 48 hours operation if green light is given backed by a firm political resolve

No. 7. Hajipir... only if outflanking operations are done in immediate surrounding sectors... would be manpower intensive.

Above is possible anytime(with current readiness posture)... For anything more than this... you require atleast 80x Chinook/Osprey type platforms & 6 frontline squadrons of MRCA's dedicated to this sole purpose(air defence & ground support).
OK.. if we don't see any "low hanging fruits" taken by India.. then @Mods.. then can we have a virtual hanging ( meaning cartoon hanging) of @iNorthernerOn9 .. I think we can do that for doing a KLPD on the whole thread..:frusty:
 

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We dont need to capture whole PoK as we need to accept their population & will be a nightmare. It would be wise to capture linear portion of land starting from Drass stretching along until Afghan border. A stretegic path will ensure we reaching to Central Asia and separates china-pak connectivity. But even if it is 10% of PoK we must be ready to pay huge price. Current leadership in GOI might not even have prepared a road map, all statements are mere election propoganda
OK.. I am joining @iNorthernerOn9 Khayali pulao party here, because it's so hard to resist.. So, if US leases a few squadrons of Chinooks, and lends diplomatic help during the war, then US might demand a permanent base in Gilgit to keep an eye on Central Asia, and for operations in Afghanistan.. as payback.. Well, US would actually demand more than that..:)
 

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Among the CDS, COAS, and all Lt Gen and Maj Gen, how many fought a war (ig in their time period Kargil and Siachen can only be considered as a war and maybe Op Parakram).

I know of Lt gen YK Joshi who commanded 13 JAK RIF during Kargil, but did he actually lead a formation up the peaks in face of enemy fire?
 

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Remember 6 names (Low hanging fruits)
1. Olthinthang
2. Fraono
3. Siari
4. Goma
5. Gyari
6. Neelam

Total of above: 8300 square kilometers approx... 48 hours operation if green light is given backed by a firm political resolve

No. 7. Hajipir... only if outflanking operations are done in immediate surrounding sectors... would be manpower intensive.

Above is possible anytime(with current readiness posture)... For anything more than this... you require atleast 80x Chinook/Osprey type platforms & 6 frontline squadrons of MRCA's dedicated to this sole purpose(air defence & ground support).
best thing will be to wreak havoc in multiple location on border from jk to gujrat rather than conc on one front.

it will dilute the military presence of pakis, and for us we have more than req forces

and also fuck the gwadar and karachi.
 

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Iske mu me ghee shakkar, iss pawan karseva me mai bhi shamil honga.
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So, if US leases a few squadrons of Chinooks, and lends diplomatic help during the war, then US might demand a permanent base in Gilgit to keep an eye on Central Asia, and for operations in Afghanistan.. as payback.. Well, US would actually demand more than that..:)
Biden has actually created a breathing space for Iran, Russia and most importantly China with the withdrawal from Afghanistan. (Trump should also be blamed here).

Lets see whether he can squeeze Chinkis in the SCS or get himself squeezed in the process.

Biden and Gen. Milley on record has said that China is not and can never be the enemy of United States.

Let them live in their la la land.
 

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I don't know why but looking at the current changes I have the feeling that India will bypass pok and make a dash for sindh and punjab while capturing all major cities on the way.

That is where our armoured corps will be the most affective.

Pok would be taken on the negotiating table.
 

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Pakistan violates LoC ceasefire in Tithwal, India retaliates

Sources said Pakistani troops opened unprovoked fire on Indian army posts, drawing a swift response from the Indian side. The exchange of fire continued for 15 minutes.

"Pakistan's unprovoked ceasefire violation was suitably retaliated," a source said.

There were no casualties on the Indian side.

 

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ISI backed Ghulam Nabi Fai, Kashmir groups linked to US based Khalistan agitation


According to the US Department of Justice, Fai "repeatedly submitted annual KAC strategy reports and budgetary requirements to Pakistani government officials for approval. For instance, in 2009, Fai sent the ISI a document entitled 'Plan of Action of KAC/Kashmir Centre, Washington, DC, for the Fiscal Year 2010,' which itemized KAC's 2010 budget request of $658,000 and listed Fai's plans to secure US congressional support for US action in support of Kashmiri self-determination.


 

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Remember 6 names (Low hanging fruits)
1. Olthinthang
2. Fraono
3. Siari
4. Goma
5. Gyari
6. Neelam

Total of above: 8300 square kilometers approx... 48 hours operation if green light is given backed by a firm political resolve

No. 7. Hajipir... only if outflanking operations are done in immediate surrounding sectors... would be manpower intensive.

Above is possible anytime(with current readiness posture)... For anything more than this... you require atleast 80x Chinook/Osprey type platforms & 6 frontline squadrons of MRCA's dedicated to this sole purpose(air defence & ground support).
if we need 80 chinooks/ospreys then why dont we design ours??
better for future also.

and use imported engine from france (aneto-3000shaft hrsprs)
 

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