India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021)

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Even so liberating PoK is different matter altogether but we should do away with ceasefire we can outgun them easily & keep on piling on the pressure but ceasefire even though baki terrorist are regularly killed on LoC is not adding up,maybe we are because of mediumisation process of artillery is going on with all 130 mm & most 105mm replaced with 155mm , loitering munitions, swarm drones,4th generation ATGM with high production rates to replenish ,atleast 500 ulh are needed to mount a ground attack,but orders have dried up since last official order of 300 sharang & 118 dhanush , unofficially atleast upcoming order seams to be 100k9 vajra more ,150 ATAGs ,CAS & heli lift capabilities would also play majore role in POJK with Krishna ghati needed to be captured immediately to cut off bakis to POJK to what they delusionally call 'sri nagar ' highway but it leads to muzzafrabad ,in these towns urban warfare scenario can also occur, attacking POJK in next conflict with bakis could also keep international pressure to minimum as it is a disputed area
 

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Anyone aware of how is the new Army Chief of Pakistan ? Is he a competent person ? What is the expected attitude of Pakistan now towards India ?

Bajwa was awesome for India because he was a coward, just wanted to hoard money and retire peacefully. Is the new army chief cut from the same cloth ?
 

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Anyone aware of how is the new Army Chief of Pakistan ? Is he a competent person ? What is the expected attitude of Pakistan now towards India ?

Bajwa was awesome for India because he was a coward
New Paki COAS is a coward too, he was the then DG-ISI when IAF entered Pakistani airspace and striked Balakot/Jaba Top.
 

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Anyone aware of how is the new Army Chief of Pakistan ? Is he a competent person ? What is the expected attitude of Pakistan now towards India ?

Bajwa was awesome for India because he was a coward, just wanted to hoard money and retire peacefully. Is the new army chief cut from the same cloth ?
Hardcore jihadi who needs to be 72ed, Imran Khan will be an advantage for us as he will keep him engaged in internal turmoil and prevent him from further fidayeen attacks.
 

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Anyone aware of how is the new Army Chief of Pakistan ? Is he a competent person ? What is the expected attitude of Pakistan now towards India ?

Bajwa was awesome for India because he was a coward, just wanted to hoard money and retire peacefully. Is the new army chief cut from the same cloth ?
He planned Pulwama attack
 

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In my opinion if the gernail had guts he would have said - we cannot take back PoK because we don't have the political will or guts to do it .
Set fire to the political asses so to speak and see what happens
Is that so? Promoting army to criticise government on national security?
In that case we will end up 30 years later with one bajwa ourselves.
 

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In my opinion if the gernail had guts he would have said - we cannot take back PoK because we don't have the political will or guts to do it .
Set fire to the political asses so to speak and see what happens
generals like Sam Manekshaw, Sagat Singh, Sunderji were once in a century type, they aren't the standard unfortunately.
 

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isnt this like last year. we lost 8 people there .


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General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Northern Command, Lieutenant General Upendra Dwivedi said the security agencies have also identified all the places where weapons are being dropped to ensure that terrorists, who are running short of arms, do not get hold of the weapons.

“Drone is an evolving technology and in the coming days, you will see action from both sides — they (Pakistan) will try to send drones (with weapons and drugs), we will deploy counter-measures using technology,” the Army commander told reporters here on the sidelines of a programme to mark the platinum jubilee of the historic “Poonch Link-up Day”.


i hope counter-drone equipment is more than 3 guns mounted on stand.
 

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Hardcore jihadi who needs to be 72ed, Imran Khan will be an advantage for us as he will keep him engaged in internal turmoil and prevent him from further fidayeen attacks.
New Paki COAS is a coward too, he was the then DG-ISI when IAF entered Pakistani airspace and striked Balakot/Jaba Top.
gonna need balakot 2.0 then , this time with 4k 60fps VR footage .
 

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isnt this like last year. we lost 8 people there .


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General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Northern Command, Lieutenant General Upendra Dwivedi said the security agencies have also identified all the places where weapons are being dropped to ensure that terrorists, who are running short of arms, do not get hold of the weapons.

“Drone is an evolving technology and in the coming days, you will see action from both sides — they (Pakistan) will try to send drones (with weapons and drugs), we will deploy counter-measures using technology,” the Army commander told reporters here on the sidelines of a programme to mark the platinum jubilee of the historic “Poonch Link-up Day”.


i hope counter-drone equipment is more than 3 guns mounted on stand.
Yup.. same area.
 

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isnt this like last year. we lost 8 people there .


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General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Northern Command, Lieutenant General Upendra Dwivedi said the security agencies have also identified all the places where weapons are being dropped to ensure that terrorists, who are running short of arms, do not get hold of the weapons.

“Drone is an evolving technology and in the coming days, you will see action from both sides — they (Pakistan) will try to send drones (with weapons and drugs), we will deploy counter-measures using technology,” the Army commander told reporters here on the sidelines of a programme to mark the platinum jubilee of the historic “Poonch Link-up Day”.


i hope counter-drone equipment is more than 3 guns mounted on stand.
Why always on the defensive? How about we start sending drones?
 

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In my opinion if the gernail had guts he would have said - we cannot take back PoK because we don't have the political will or guts to do it .
Set fire to the political asses so to speak and see what happens
Ya, sure... by the next morning, he would be out on his a$$ having got the boot. Dissing the elected political leadership is a no- no. These things are easier for people on the internet to say, not for people holding important positions.

In any case, I don't understand this obsession with PoK. Some stupid pie in the sky idea . After the Russian disaster in Ukraine, any conventional war has to be fought only if absolutely necessary. Stupid to believe otherwise. The PoK thing is only to be dangled about to keep the Pakistanis flustered, not for anything else. At best, if the ceasefire completely breaks down, the LoC can be changed in some areas. If Pakistan continues to follows the Bajwa plan, then we simply concentrate on our economy and add to our gains in J&K. Anything else is a loony idea.
 

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