India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021)

mokoman

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Read all the same emotional reactions for years . What India needs is the government
to cancel the Indus water treaty. No need to share water with our enemy, any normal
country would have threw this treaty out decades ago.


Climate change may necessitate Indus treaty re-negotiation
should read:
Climate change may necessitate Indus treaty cancellation
85 % glacial loss on our side , compared to 37% loss for them , our 30% share will be further reduced .

better call up the world bank chutiyas and start negotiations now .

i am guessing this will at some point lead to a conflict or atleast increase in tension .
 

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A migrant worker from Bihar was shot dead by terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir's Bandipora district, police said on Friday.

The attack took place around midnight, they said.

"During intervening night, #terrorists fired upon & injured one outside #labourer Mohd Amrez S/O Mohd Jalil R/O Madhepura Besarh #Bihar at Soadnara Sumbal, #Bandipora," the Kashmir Zone Police said on Twitter.

The police said Amrez was shifted to a hospital for treatment where he succumbed to injuries. -- PTI
 

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  • Six soldiers of the Army were injured in the operation and of them, three succumbed to injuries while repulsing the suicide attack, he added, while one more succumbed to his injuries later.

  • The first gunshot was heard around 2 am

  • Terrorists came close to 7-feet high fencing wall of the 11 Raj Rifles camp and hurled a grenade on a sentry post," senior superintendent of police (Rajouri) Mohammad Aslam said. In the grenade blast, one sentry personnel died on the spot
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The image above could pass off for one from the 90's.

What is the standard issue for troops of RajRif in Kashmir - INSAS or AK?

I wonder if casualties could've been lower with better weapons and tactics after the initial loss of one soldier in the grenade attack.
As for night fighting capabilities... never mind.
 

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The image above could pass off for one from the 90's.

What is the standard issue for troops of RajRif in Kashmir - INSAS or AK?

I wonder if casualties could've been lower with better weapons and tactics after the initial loss of one soldier in the grenade attack.
As for night fighting capabilities... never mind
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The image is used for representative purposes in the article
 

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The image is used for representative purposes in the article
True but its also possible that these images of J&KP belong to this incident and are being used by media in other reports.

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Anyways. More here.


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The militants, however, managed to gain entry inside the camp due to extreme hostile weather conditions and engaged troops in the firing.
They heavily fired using steel core bullets.
In the gun battle, three bravehearts of Army were martyred while three others were injured. Both the militants were gunned down in subsequent retaliation by the Army personnel. Another injured soldier breathed his last in the hospital.
Last shot was heard around 6.10 am.
 

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True but its also possible that these images of J&KP belong to this incident and are being used by media in other reports.

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Nothing will happen. Army will just carry on as usual. Like I said before, soldiers are mere cannon-fodder for the political and army elites. This incident will be forgotten just like the previous ones. Widows and mothers of the martyrs will weep while politicians, bureaucrats and corrupt army elite will be doing "dalaali" for arms dealers.
 

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Nothing will happen. Army will just carry on as usual. Like I said before, soldiers are mere cannon-fodder for the political and army elites. This incident will be forgotten just like the previous ones. Widows and mothers of the martyrs will weep while politicians, bureaucrats and corrupt army elite will be doing "dalaali" for arms dealers.
Unless & until u declare these attacks on Indian army personnel equivalent to surgical strikes of Pakistan nothing will happen. Porkistan is pretty much happy with its 1000 cuts policy.
Killing terrorists will never be equal to killing Pork army men in any universe. You have to increase the cost. Otherwise u are already behind the 8 ball.
 

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So what stops the Indian government from retaliating disproportionately to any given misadventure by Pakistan Army (and ISI)? Every time the country faces such attacks and hopes for some strong retaliation, GoI always takes the stand of least engagement. There are 'No War' cries not only among the liberals but also from the sections the government saying an escalation would be too expensive and will cost hundreds of lives and machine. What about the economy they ask, stating that FDI will run away at the slightest hint of war, Sensex will crash, people (and they themselves) will lose their investments. Let us just agree, we gauge everything from business point of view. For us concepts like bravery, courage, grit and perseverance are things that we must learn and keep them limited to books and motivational speeches.

Punitive surgical strikes are good for PR but do nothing substantial on the ground and repeated strikes by terrorists show that how ineffectual they are. The only thing is, to pull our boots, draw up a plan and make things costly for the Pakistan army.
 
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So what stops the Indian government from retaliating disproportionately to any given misadventure by Pakistan Army (and ISI)? Every time the country faces such attacks and hopes for some strong retaliation, GoI always takes the stand of least engagement. There are 'No War' cries not only among the liberals but also from the sections the government saying an escalation would be too expensive and will cost hundreds of lives and machine. What about the economy they ask, stating that FDI will run away at the slightest hint of war, Sensex will crash, people (and they themselves) will lose their investments. Let us just agree, we gauge everything from business point of view. For us concepts like bravery, courage, grit and perseverance are things that we must learn and keep them limited to books and motivational speeches.

Punitive surgical strikes are good for PR but do nothing substantial on the ground and repeated strikes by terrorists show that how ineffectual they are. The only thing is, to pull our boots, draw up a plan and make things costly for the Pakistan army.

Wait till we take our brahmastra
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True but its also possible that these images of J&KP belong to this incident and are being used by media in other reports.

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Inbreds used armor piercing rounds. These rounds could be circulated from Afghanistan. No doubt pakis want tensions at Kashmir.

I guess ISI is active again, they just can't see a free country for 75 years after all. Here goes kadi ninda once again. We were slaves, we will remain slaves.
 

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looks like there are several places along the LOC we can salami slice . imagine taking few 10 , 50 sqr km every time they send terrorists in .

:lehappy: but simla agreement tied our hands -we have to respect the LOC !! , on top of that , we now have cease fire. if we signed cease fire because of Chinese at LAC , this will only get worse , because the Chinese are not going anywhere .

Inbreds used armor piercing rounds. These rounds could be circulated from Afghanistan. No doubt pakis want tensions at Kashmir.

I guess ISI is active again, they just can't see a free country for 75 years after all. Here goes kadi ninda once again. We were slaves, we will remain slaves.
remember reading very old news , i think these are chinese steel rounds .
 

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