India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[pankaj nema]

Pakistani Journalist

 

[Physx32]

Thinks are much more deeper and you and dont have any idea about it.
So stop questioning because you have no idea

this a paper published by lasker e taiba group khozikode

if you don't have any knowledge then stop questioning
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Good luck finding "Ajit Dowel" and "Ram Nath Govind".

 

[Physx32]

yes , there are these elements in kerala , just like rest of India.

No. Rest of India doesn't have offices and branches of terrorist organisation LeT.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

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Brahmos fired in march and imrand is going to be removed.
Nice script Mr Doval you are really a genius.
Just like Netaji Subhash chandra bose who wrote script of 1971 war in 1964 but people don't know about it

Imran khan going is a little bad for us as he has had an obvious positive effect in our strategic moves.

the only comparitive clown they can elect is the bilawal bhutto guy.i hope they dont elect the old man,he looks sensible enough and probably knows when to shut his mouth.

 

[Viper316]

Pakistani Journalist

So the blast incident is true, meteor shower is just a coverup story.

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Mc k2ue ki aukat dekho

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[Ayushraj]

a country who offered f-16 to us in 2010s and is still offering f-16 . Even they offered Pakistan f-16 in 1980s .
Even US gave harpoon missile to porkis in 1980s and india in 2020s and also allowed porkis to do modifications on it.
Even apache was developed in 1970s but offered newer generation viper to porkis

US still thinks india is 4 th world country. Even india is more backward pakistani.
For US india is country to whom they will sell their garbage weapons. US just want to dump their garbage weaponry in India

US and porkis have same mentality on india
We must support Russia at any cost

 

[FalconSlayers]

a country who offered f-16 to us in 2010s and is still offering f-16 . Even they offered Pakistan f-16 in 1980s .
Even US gave harpoon missile to porkis in 1980s and india in 2020s and also allowed porkis to do modifications on it.
Even apache was developed in 1970s

US still thinks india is 4 th world country. Even india is more backward pakistani.
For US india is country to whom they will sell their garbage weapons. US just want to dump their garbage weaponry in India

US and porkis have same mentality on india
We must support Russia at any cost

It is why we need to extract as much benefit from all sides, wherever we get benefits we should grab them. Neither USA nor China is trustable.

 

[Covfefe]

a country who offered f-16 to us in 2010s and is still offering f-16 . Even they offered Pakistan f-16 in 1980s .
Even US gave harpoon missile to porkis in 1980s and india in 2020s and also allowed porkis to do modifications on it.

US itself used F16 in the 80s and uses it till date. Same for Harpoon. Doesn't make the weapon any less lethal. Post 2005 the US has offered to us some of the most cutting edge weapons which they do not to any other country as big as India which is also a friend of Russia. India is the second biggest operator of P8 after the US
If not for S400 saga we might have seen the F35 deal on the table sometime later maybe. While we have our reasons to not depend on them due to their 'shaky' stand as a partner, this doesn't negate the fact that they've offered us some of their best systems.

 

[Ayushraj]

US itself used F16 in the 80s and uses it till date. Same for Harpoon. Doesn't make the weapon any less lethal. Post 2005 the US has offered to us some of the most cutting edge weapons which they do not to any other country as big as India which is also a friend of Russia. India is the second biggest operator of P8 after the US
If not for S400 saga we might have seen the F35 deal on the table sometime later maybe. While we have our reasons to not depend on them due to their 'shaky' stand as a partner, this doesn't negate the fact that they've offered us some of their best systems.

US sold apache to us but offered newer generation viper to porkis for free.
Even in 1990s US offered porkis M1 - Abrams

Even porkis also got patton and starfighter newer generation plane from US

Even is porkis have not kicked their butt in Afghanistan. They would definitely offered f35 to them and offered f-16 to us

US thinks we are 4 th world country even poorer than Africa.
Just like porkis

 

[Covfefe]

US sold apache to us but offered newer generation viper to porkis for free.
Even in 1990s US offered porkis M1 - Abrams

Even porkis also got patton and starfighter newer generation plane from US

Even is porkis have not kicked their butt in Afghanistan. They would definitely offeree f35 to them and offered f-16 to us

US thinks we are 4 th world country even poorer than Africa.
Just like poekis

US offered it to porkis because they were their keep in this part of the world. If India was willing to burn down it's country at the behest of Muricans, sure Air Force could've had some fancy toys.
US doesn't think of India as some poor 4th world country- they know what we are, where it is in their interest to help us empower, and where to curtail.

 

[Ayushraj]

US offered it to porkis because they were their keep in this part of the world. If India was willing to burn down it's country at the behest of Muricans, sure Air Force could've had some fancy toys.
US doesn't think of India as some poor 4th world country- they know what we are, where it is in their interest to help us empower, and where to curtail.

When we ask why US don't offer us f35.
US establishment says that firstly configure your air force on Nato standard by buying f16 and taking experience on US plane.
Then we will offer you f-35 after 20 years.
That's their plan for you

 

[Covfefe]

When we ask why US don't offer us f35.
US establishment says that firstly configure your air force on Nato standard by buying f16 and taking experience on US plane.
Then we will offer you f-35 after 20 years.
That's their plan for you

Source?

 

[Marliii]

US offered it to porkis because they were their keep in this part of the world. If India was willing to burn down it's country at the behest of Muricans, sure Air Force could've had some fancy toys.
US doesn't think of India as some poor 4th world country- they know what we are, where it is in their interest to help us empower, and where to curtail.

And add to that its mainly because of US that pakis aren't getting any gucci western stuff.they tried to get some italian helos some days back and have cancelled it because US may block engines .and US is isn't doing this because of pleasing india they are doing this mainly to keep western equipment out of China and also biden and his lackeys hate pakis because of their double crossing

 

[Covfefe]

And add to that its mainly because of US that pakis aren't getting any gucci western stuff.they tried to get some italian helos some days back and have cancelled it because US may block engines .and US is isn't doing this because of pleasing india they are doing this mainly to keep western equipment out of China and also biden and his lackeys hate pakis because of their double crossing

Exactly they have played very rationally with India- supporting where it is in their interest, and attacking where it suits their agenda. That's how countries should run. For all it's shortcomings, US is a better partner for India than others- for their own reasons of course. Don't remember the Ruskies sending in more than half a billion dollar worth of medical aid during covid. Same for trade and other stuff as well.

 

[Ayushraj]

US itself used F16 in the 80s and uses it till date. Same for Harpoon. Doesn't make the weapon any less lethal. Post 2005 the US has offered to us some of the most cutting edge weapons which they do not to any other country as big as India which is also a friend of Russia. India is the second biggest operator of P8 after the US
If not for S400 saga we might have seen the F35 deal on the table sometime later maybe. While we have our reasons to not depend on them due to their 'shaky' stand as a partner, this doesn't negate the fact that they've offered us some of their best systems.

P-8 is a defensive weaponry to detect submarine.

US never provide us offensive weaponry.

Even we bought a landing ship from US and US has placed hell lot of sanctions on that ship by saying it will not be used in war and US will inspect their electronics regularly. That's why we have to change the electronics on that ship

Even for s400 they offered by 1980s patriot missile not 2010s thaad system
US thinks india is a dumping ground

 

[Covfefe]

P-8 is a defensive weaponry to detect submarine.

US never provide us offensive weaponry.

Even we bought a landing ship from US and US has placed hell lot of sanctions on that ship by says it will not be used in war and US will inspect their electronics regularly. That's why we have to change the electronics on that ship

Even for s400 they offered by 1980s patriot missile not 2010sthaad system

Detect a submarine/ship from P8 and shoot a torpedo- there it becomes an offensive weapon.
We never bought US offensive weaponry because of our own concerns of US meddling into them.
Rafale is also from 80s so is S400, why do people think everything has changed drastically from then?

The development of the S-400 system began in the late 1980s and the Russian Air Force announced the system in January 1993.

 

[sachincba]

Meh, here, go on -

"R-73 selected": Last radio transmission of Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman before ejecting from his MiG-21 Bison

Wing Commander Abhinandan who was captured by the Pakistani army was returned to India under the Geneva Convention. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Because, saying to media that, yeah comms. were jammed and our pilot was disoriented, is easy and the correct thing to do, than saying that our pilot disobeyed order and got himself shot down.

If radio was jammed, how were the ground controllers able to listen to him?

Although Abhinandan has been made a hero, he desobeyed order, got himself shot and put the whole India under defensive. If only Abhinandan wasn't captured alive, we would have been able to launch massive counter operations. After his getting captured, we had to threaten Pakistan with missiles ready to strike to get him released at the cost of not launching any counter attack.

 

[Covfefe]

patriot system development started in Vietnam War in 1960s they offered you that in 2020 against s400.

Weapon of 60s doesn't stay the way it was developed in 60s. They also offered Nasams which was deployed in 2007, what's your point? They deployed a less competent system and then offered it to us?

F-16 development started in korean war and they offered you that in 2020.

And F16 with present day electronics is very well capable to take on any 4.5 gen fighter today. Check out Rafale pilot Ate's interview transcript in which he talks about his duel with F16. It a cheap and a very nimble jet. If we had ordered it back in 2014-15 Mudiji wouldn't have to say - agar Abhinandan ke paas Rafale hota to. We have bitten something which was difficult for us to chew given the high lifecycle cost of French platforms.

Apache development started in Vietnam War and they sold you that in 2019.

Name a better heavy attack helicopter than Apache today. Ka52 Alligators were hunted by Soviet era MANPADS in Ukraine recently, that even China got worried for its purchase

That is your place in US minds.

You are free to draw conclusions from some concocted view of America weapon offerings of all the things.

 

[Rudra7678]

If radio was jammed, how were the ground controllers able to listen to him?

Although Abhinandan has been made a hero, he desobeyed order, got himself shot and put the whole India under defensive. If only Abhinandan wasn't captured alive, we would have been able to launch massive counter operations. After his getting captured, we had to threaten Pakistan with missiles ready to strike to get him released at the cost of not launching any counter attack.

I have some acquaintances (now retired) that served in the IAF. About Abhinandan and CDS copter crash, they said that "pilot error" is usually sense of overconfidence that becomes their undoing.