India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[DEV1729]

no expert , but since the gov didnt say 'no warhead' and from the pics , i also think it did have warhead like u said .

wasnt there also a tweet where some guy said window glass on far away houses were shattered ?

sounds like shock wave from a explosion.

He said it felt like earthquake was in Mian channu with loud continuous explosions

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

The shortage of officers is telling of how difficult the selection criteria and despite the shortage the army is not downgrading the standards.

I may agree on physical conditions,but I dont know about the group discussion and psychoanalysis bull,just have a medical,aptitude,GK section and physical.lots of people are there .there are literally 100s of millions in the age range,how can we not fill our positions.although ,I think we need to be a more leaner force with more tech focus.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Well if it was guiding towards pre defined target then why didn't hit PAF base
Because that's what a target should've been in case of an actual conflict

the question is who owned that building which got hit by missile and why is the houseowner not asking for compensation ?
and who lived in that building ?

 

[abingdonboy]

This will be my last take on this.
I believe This is a clear message to pak.

Maintenance is pure BS.
Seperation of warhead itself is a complex process and
Bhramos is a canisterized missile. How cud they do it in Sirsa base when only bhramos facility is in Hyderabad???

Or some serious error in OBC,

Maybe seasoned members can provide an alternative.
@Chinmoy @mist_consecutive

I would love to learn exactly what the SOPs are in place for these things, to disable the self destruct but keep the flight controls and guidance system powered up then carry our maintenance with the Brahmos in a firing position (remember for IA launcher the TEL has to raise the launch arm) seems crazy and that too with no warhead in place. What kind of maintenance are they doing in the field like this?

 

[ClawReed787]

no expert , but since the gov didnt say 'no warhead' and from the pics , i also think it did have warhead like u said .

wasnt there also a tweet where some guy said window glass on far away houses were shattered ?

sounds like shock wave from a explosion.

From the print article:
" it followed the trajectory that it would have in case of a conflict, but “certain factors” played a role in ensuring that any pre-fed target was out of danger. "
"Asked why there was no warhead, sources explained that it was a practice missile, which meant that everything was exactly the same as an armed BrahMos missile except for the warhead."
"The trajectory of the missile as shown by Pakistan is wrong, which clearly shows that it does not have the capability to track either the flight or the launch site, they said."
so they are saying it's a training missile.
Lol they couldn't even track it kek.

 

[XR SAM]

Porki we have neutralised indian air force rafale and brahmos missile by buying HQ -9 air defense system from China and also j-10.
This system can easily shoot down supersonic aircraft or missile which means brahmos threat is totally neutralised.
Even hq-9 can deal with hypersonic weapon.

india fired brahmos missile which travelled 100 km+ inside Pakistan and hq-9 did nothing.
even iaf also got idea how paf radar pattern work

paf can also say paisa barbaad Behench**d on hq-9 system most sophisticated in Pakistan

But their high profile experts are saying sophisticated systems like HQ9 are kept inactive during peacetime and it's for intercepting inter galactical high hypersonic missiles and puny Brahmos can be shot down with ly80, they tracked brahmos they could have shot it down in nano seconds but they didn't do it because they knew Indian missile don't have roohani power like their missiles and couldn't do any damage?

 

[Vamsi]

 

[mokoman]

From the print article:
" it followed the trajectory that it would have in case of a conflict, but “certain factors” played a role in ensuring that any pre-fed target was out of danger. "
"Asked why there was no warhead, sources explained that it was a practice missile, which meant that everything was exactly the same as an armed BrahMos missile except for the warhead."
"The trajectory of the missile as shown by Pakistan is wrong, which clearly shows that it does not have the capability to track either the flight or the launch site, they said."
so they are saying it's a training missile.
Lol they couldn't even track it kek.

i mean the official press release , if it didnt have a warhead , would make sense to include that .

"sources" are iffy

 

[Vamsi]

 

[abingdonboy]

From the print article:
" it followed the trajectory that it would have in case of a conflict, but “certain factors” played a role in ensuring that any pre-fed target was out of danger. "
"Asked why there was no warhead, sources explained that it was a practice missile, which meant that everything was exactly the same as an armed BrahMos missile except for the warhead."
"The trajectory of the missile as shown by Pakistan is wrong, which clearly shows that it does not have the capability to track either the flight or the launch site, they said."
so they are saying it's a training missile.
Lol they couldn't even track it kek.

Oh come on. Of all the missiles to fire they find one of the handful of training missiles?

this story gets more and more absurd

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

From the print article:
" it followed the trajectory that it would have in case of a conflict, but “certain factors” played a role in ensuring that any pre-fed target was out of danger. "
"Asked why there was no warhead, sources explained that it was a practice missile, which meant that everything was exactly the same as an armed BrahMos missile except for the warhead."
"The trajectory of the missile as shown by Pakistan is wrong, which clearly shows that it does not have the capability to track either the flight or the launch site, they said."
so they are saying it's a training missile.
Lol they couldn't even track it kek.

how can a missile without warhead bring an entire building down ?
and the building which is being shown is big and how come there are zero casualties ? what was the purpose of that building ? who lived there ?

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

yes, that bit is unanswered.
if military chaps are not giving answers, some science guy/girl will. we know the mass, we can guess the trajectory, we can guess the speed, folks should be able to calculate the kinetic energy at impact.

KE at impact in the whereabouts of 0.25 ton TNT equivalent.

For comparison, artillery shells have 1-2 kg TNT.

 

[abingdonboy]

Why is Pakistan asking for clarity on the type of missile considering they have the debris?

More importantly why is Pakistan asking for the flight path/trajectory when they claim they tracked it from launch to splash?

 

[Javelin_Sam]

The Brahmos missile launch was planned. GoI expected a PAK retaliation. So VayuShakti was cancelled and IAF assets set up for any PAKI misadventure. The missile cruised in a well directed path outside of normal civilian flights airspace and struck a building, punched a crater. Apparently not a single soul died according to Paxtan inspite of it being a dense civilian area. PAK cordoned off the site for 2 days. That means they don't want to speak of who died.

 

[Vayuputra]

The Brahmos missile launch was planned. GoI expected a PAK retaliation. So VayuShakti was cancelled and IAF assets set up for any PAKI misadventure. The missile cruised in a well directed path outside of normal civilian flights airspace and struck a building, punched a crater. Apparently not a single soul died according to Paxtan inspite of it being a dense civilian area. PAK cordoned off the site for 2 days. That means they don't want to speak of who died.

Now, you ara making some sense I'm convinced that it was indeed a planned operation, otherwise I don't see any reason for building up troops presence at the western border.

 

[lcafanboy]

How many Pakistanis were there in it?

You are asking a wrong question...
Right question is...
Of the 81, Was there any other nationality person other than Pakistanis who were executed...

 

[Love Charger]

You are asking a wrong question...
Right question is...
Of the 81, Was there any other nationality person other than Pakistanis who were executed...

The sheer sarcasm of this post is mind blowing

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

The Brahmos missile launch was planned. GoI expected a PAK retaliation. So VayuShakti was cancelled and IAF assets set up for any PAKI misadventure. The missile cruised in a well directed path outside of normal civilian flights airspace and struck a building, punched a crater. Apparently not a single soul died according to Paxtan inspite of it being a dense civilian area. PAK cordoned off the site for 2 days. That means they don't want to speak of who died.

What cordon?

The initial videos came from Pakis who gathered and formed a mob there.

If people indeed died, then we definitely would see some bloody images/videos before whatever cordon the Pakis did.

 

[captscooby81]

We may never come to know . our COI never gets publicised does anyone have any clue what happened to the CO who authorised sypder shot on our Mi-17 .. offcourse not all things need to be in public but then again which itself leads to our pushing things below carpet when we fuck up .

Bdw..
What I heard ..It was a stupid mistake

 

[Mikel]

What cordon?

The initial videos came from Pakis who gathered and formed a mob there.

If people indeed died, then we definitely would see some bloody images/videos before whatever cordon the Pakis did.

In one of the videos, ambulances were seen. But could have been brought as a precaution.