India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[ezsasa]

No, it wasn’t a surrender

With TLP on board and TTP nearly so, PM Khan has scored a century against the ‘bloody liberals’ he hates.

www.dawn.com

Pakistan is steadily and definitely going to Hell

If the supposedly best and brightest in pakiland (in this case hoodbuoy)continue to live with such contradictions in their heads, to assume they will be safe from their own fundamentalists is stupidity. either grow a spine or stop talking.

excerpt from that oped.

It can’t be clearer: much as Narendra Modi would like India cleansed of Muslims and Christians, Imran Khan wants to do away with Pakistan’s liberal scum, as he calls it.

 

[Covfefe]

If the supposedly best and brightest in pakiland (in this case hoodbuoy)continue to live with such contradictions in their heads, to assume they will be safe from their own fundamentalists is stupidity. either grow a spine or stop talking.

excerpt from that oped.

Pakistan has no liberals- it only has, at the best, some English-speaking soft fundamentalists who will propagate the Establishment's line of thought in the liberal English academia and journalism circles. They will whitewash their Army's deeds, ignore/discredit/cancel the cancer of Islamism, draw false equivalence by imagining absurd parallels between their terrorist organizations and the RW organizations across the world.

This Hoodbuoy, that Shuja Nawaz fella, the female journalist who wrote books on the Kargil war - Nasim Zehra, then Moeed Peerzada, Nazam Sethi- they are all from the very bloc, that portrays a mirage of non-existent liberal-dissenting-democratic-intelligentsia of Pakistan in order to gain better acceptability among the Western powers while their "Jihad boys" activities are shrugged under the carpet.

 

[pankaj nema]

If the supposedly best and brightest in pakiland (in this case hoodbuoy)continue to live with such contradictions in their heads, to assume they will be safe from their own fundamentalists is stupidity. either grow a spine or stop talking.

excerpt from that oped.

Hoodbuoy and all these Liberal " Scum" as he himself refers to have huge regrets
That they themselves were Supporters of the Jihad against India and Afghanistan

But they never imagined the situation to completely flip around so soon whereby TTP and TLP would be their New Masters

Our Friends on P-D-F are in a complete shock these days , they are just blaming Bajwa and Imran

According to "Scum " on P-D- F
Once Afghanistan was liberated from US
The Western Border would become peaceful and India would be forced to Negotiate on Kashmir

But TTP and TLP and Afghan Taliban along with Baloch Rebels have decimated the Pakistani Writ of the State

The current price of 178 Rs a Dollar
Means that Bankruptcy and Hyper inflation are just 3 years away

 

[ezsasa]

Pakistan has no liberals- it only has, at the best, some English-speaking soft fundamentalists who will propagate the Establishment's line of thought in the liberal English academia and journalism circles. They will whitewash their Army's deeds, ignore/discredit/cancel the cancer of Islamism, draw false equivalence by imagining absurd parallels between their terrorist organizations and the RW organizations across the world.

This Hoodbuoy, that Shuja Nawaz fella, the female journalist who wrote books on the Kargil war - Nasim Zehra, then Moeed Peerzada, Nazam Sethi- they are all from the very bloc, that portrays a mirage of non-existent liberal-dissenting-democratic-intelligentsia of Pakistan in order to gain better acceptability among the Western powers while their "Jihad boys" activities are shrugged under the carpet.

Paki version of "Progressive Writer's Association".

 

[Ayushraj]

This country only focus on narrative and propaganda.
In India we will never see this type of meeting going on.
We are no were when it comes to information warfare at institutional level only this is power of indian public

 

[SUPERPOWER]

This country only on narrative and propaganda.
In India we will never this type of meeting going on.
We are no were when it comes to information warfare at institutional level only this is power of indian public

We do meetings only for Free Cakes, Samosa and chai..

 

[BabaKhalbali]

Meanwhile RM be like


Kehna kya chahte ho

 

[Love Charger]

Meanwhile RM be like


Kehna kya chahte ho

yahi ki pakistan kehta hai ki wo ab atankwaad ko panah nahi deta .

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Meanwhile RM be like


Kehna kya chahte ho

Aaj Desi mara hai lagta hai..

 

[Knowitall]

Meanwhile RM be like


Kehna kya chahte ho

And he says this after we lost close to a dozen of our soldiers and civilians in kashmir which resulted in a exodus of Hindus from kashmir once again.

Lack of accountability hai to bawasir to bolega hi. It's not like anyone can charge him for lying with a straight face.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Prasun Sengupta posted this

As for the AF-PAK region, drastic changes are due to take place on either November 19 or 20, according to this, which predicts the imminent ouster of IAKN & his PTI party from power:




In fact, IAKN has been at loggerheads with the PA since August 2019, when he was for a far more hostile posture being adopted against India, while the PA favoured a solution that called for a permanent solution to the J & K issue that was under deliberation since 2017 in back-channel talks held in the UK between Indian & Pakistani interlocutors. Thus, it was IAKN who was behind all the drone-delivered weapons & narcotics that were dropped in northern Punjab & southern Jammu between mid-2020 & last August, in defiance of the PA’s directives. You will also have noticed that after the PA prevailed over IAKN on matters relating to Afghanistan, all the drone flights into have also stopped for good. And that also perhaps explains why the IA or IAF did not militarily retaliate against Pakistan whenever such drone flights took place. Now, WRT Afghanistan, it was again IAKN who was resolutely against providing the land transit corridor to Indian humanitarian supplies, but it now seems the PA has won this bout too & hence the PA prevailed upon the visiting Taliban representatives in Islamabad to officially state that the Taliban would welcome India’s humanitarian relief supplies that would be transiting through Pakistan.

So the stage has now been readied for ‘Modi ka Yaar’ Mian Mohd Nawaz Sharif’s triumphant return back to Pakistan from self-imposed exile in the UK.

& Avi raina posted this





2 sources on which I put my trust seem to be converging & signaling a Checkmate.

In my opinion... IAKN was 'selected' as PM to take the steam out of PTM(Pashtun Tahafuz Movement)... it worked actually... & if he is removed... we will have a Sheikh Mujibur Rahman redux situation

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Until yesterday ISPR troll commanders on twitter were convincing their madarsachaap awaam that India won't receive S-400 bcoz of CAATSA

As soon as the news of commencing of S-400 deliveries came out... now they have started the Propaganda that India is getting '250km' version of S-400 & not getting the 400km range 40N6E missile.

 

[pankaj nema]

Pakistan bleeds from a thousand cuts. If things had gone according to plan it is India that should have been hurting now, not Pakistan. The army’s 25-year-old low-cost, high-impact strategy of covert warfare should have liberated Kashmir and secured Afghanistan from Indian influence. Instead, a fierce blowback has led to a daily pileup of shaheeds, the casualties of a plan that has gone awry.
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According to Hoodbuoy

Pakistan's Army: Divided It Stands

Super-charged and locally bred religious militants in Pakistan have fiercely turned upon their former tutors. The military is now haemorrhaging from these unrelenting attacks. As violence grows, pessimism and despondency have permeated the intelligentsia, prompting a flight out of the country...

www.epw.in

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This was the Original Plan in which All of Pakistan Liberals were fully and eagerly involved

But instead now they have To live under the rule of TTP and TLP.

 

[not so dravidian]

In my opinion... IAKN was 'selected' as PM to take the steam out of PTM(Pashtun Tahafuz Movement)... it worked actually... & if he is removed... we will have a Sheikh Mujibur Rahman redux situation

___________________________________________

Until yesterday ISPR troll commanders on twitter were convincing their madarsachaap awaam that India won't receive S-400 bcoz of CAATSA

As soon as the news of commencing of S-400 deliveries came out... now they have started the Propaganda that India is getting '250km' version of S-400 & not getting the 400km range 40N6E missile.

I guess we have not getting the 40N6E

Does anyone know, since there is no confirmation

 

[Deathstar]

I guess we have not getting the 40N6E

Does anyone know, since there is no confirmation

What the use of getting S400 if we aint getting the 400km interceptor? Probably quanitity kept classified

 

[Love Charger]

What the use of getting S400 if we aint getting the 400km interceptor? Probably quanitity kept classified

Yes it's kind of useless than , maximum range missile should have been bought .
Iam waiting for xrsam thats why

 

[FalconZero]

Meanwhile RM be like


Kehna kya chahte ho

It's just randitv being randitv, i don't know if they tweeted the whole thread or cherry picked the one which suited their whole agenda. RM is in event regarding ex-soldiers so there's nothing new in his statement, just celebrating the army nothing else and a bit cheesy (I hate this but they are politicians so yeah, they will look for those browney points).
Here's the list of statements directly from ani,

here's his full speech, if anyone wants to go through it and provide exact context go ahead. I am not watching that video, too boring and useless.

Also, still with the context his statement are utter retarded, and somebody tell these choots that 71 was 50 years ago, majority of indians were not even born at that time, 1999 was still 22 years ago, lots of things have changed since then. You doing airstrike didn't change the fact that terrorism has again started peaking and it seem like you are just making excusing and trying to capture gullible people.

You are doing diservice to those brave men and public with cheesy generic remarks, who the fuck even says that we are in Top 10 or 5 country in defense or some shit like this? I used to watch such videos when i was a kid can't believe these oldies think that these are something that will inspire anyone.

I hate it.

 

[Covfefe]

Pakistan bleeds from a thousand cuts. If things had gone according to plan it is India that should have been hurting now, not Pakistan. The army’s 25-year-old low-cost, high-impact strategy of covert warfare should have liberated Kashmir and secured Afghanistan from Indian influence. Instead, a fierce blowback has led to a daily pileup of shaheeds, the casualties of a plan that has gone awry.
______________________________________
According to Hoodbuoy

Pakistan's Army: Divided It Stands

Super-charged and locally bred religious militants in Pakistan have fiercely turned upon their former tutors. The military is now haemorrhaging from these unrelenting attacks. As violence grows, pessimism and despondency have permeated the intelligentsia, prompting a flight out of the country...

www.epw.in

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This was the Original Plan in which All of Pakistan Liberals were fully and eagerly involved

But instead now they have To live under the rule of TTP and TLP.

@ezsasa
Ah, the classical lie of "bad apples" within their Army while the whole army is a terrorist organization-

What separates Army-One and ISI-One from Army-Two and ISI-Two? This may not be immediately evident. Both were reared on the Two-Nation Theory, the belief of Mohammed Ali Jinnah, that Hindus and Muslims could never live together in peace. Both are thoroughly steeped in anti-Indianism since their early days in army cadet colleges at Petaro and Hasan Abdal. They also share a deep-rooted contempt for Pakistani civilians. This attitude has resulted in roughly half of Pakistan’s history being that of direct military rule.

Still, they are not the same. The One’ers are “soft Islamists” who are satisfied with a fuzzy belief that Islam provides solutions to everything, that occasional prayers and ritual fasting in Ramzan is sufficient, and that Sufis and Shias are bona fide Muslims rather than mushriks or apostates. They are not particularly interested in defending the Sunni states of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, or the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC). But should a lucrative overseas posting come the way of an individual soldier or officer, well, that may be another matter. While having a dislike of US policies, they are not militantly anti-US.

Army-Two and ISI-Two, on the other hand, are soldier ideologues who have travelled further down the road of Islamism. Large numbers of them regularly travel to Raiwind, the headquarters of the Tablighi Jamaat, a supposedly nonpolitical religious organisation which has a global proselytising mission and whose preachers are allowed open access into the army. The Two’ers are stricter in matters of religious rituals, they insist that officers and their wives be segregated at army functions. They keep an eye out for officers who secretly drink alcohol, and how often they pray. Their political philosophy is that Islam and the State should be inseparable. Inspired by Maulana Abul Ala Maududi, who preached that seventh century Arab Islam provides a complete blueprint for society and politics, they see capturing state power as a means towards creating the ideal society along the lines of the medieval Medina state. Many Two’ers are beardless, hence hard to detect. They are fundamentally anti-science but computer savvy. For them, modern technology is a tool of battle.

 

[The Shrike]

What the use of getting S400 if we aint getting the 400km interceptor? Probably quanitity kept classified

I think it will be pretty effective even with the 250km, a big leap from what we have today.

 

[Love Charger]

Iam waiting for a war with the porkies , a war to end all wars forever .
A big decisive war , to end it all for the porkies.
Which will happen , india continues to grow .The dogs or pakis are salivating by looking at it , they want to steal it
It's good time , they start a war .
Only thing is indian army should not treat POWs and civilians in European manner , Europeans fought nice wars , for their kings .
We will fight for our survival.
Thus , ask them to convert and leave their desert traditions or else ...

 

[not so dravidian]

What the use of getting S400 if we aint getting the 400km interceptor? Probably quanitity kept classified

We were said to recieve 77N6-N and the 77N6-NI, both r part of the s500 hypersonic interceptors.

The most interesting aspect of the missile is that it has inert warhead