India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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I dont think economic warfare will work because, as pakistan will get more economically unstable china will come and take their land or pakis will give pok,gb to china like shaksgam valley

best is to use military and drag those bastards in war as they will not be able to sustain it for more than 15 days.

and if they tried to nuke us bmd will surely take care of it, then we can also nuke their asses off.

this (nuking) can also solve the refugee crisis 😈😈
15 days? Not gonna lie, seeing their economic condition and military condition, I doubt they’ll be able to sustain war for more than 3-4 days.
 

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Anticipating Bomb blasts in some big Temple, Railway stations, Bus stops or Airports.

Also anticipating lone wolf attack on one prominent BJP leader or a popular journalist by Khalistani terrorists.
Dont think the low tier jihadis within would carry out any attacks, planning and attackers shud come from terroristan, low tier Jihadis will act as guide to them. Good our intelligence identified and arresting the pigs in bunches. But terroristan will wait for orders from beijing to carry out major terror attacks. Surgical strikes by GOI have forced the pakis to lower the gaurd. But pak-chene coordinated apporach is working, galwan faceoff is preplanned by evil nexus. pak is very much proxy of chenes, if pak terrorists carry out any attack dont be surprised a confrontation happens in LAC simultaneously. So that we are forced to focus on PLA and wont be able to retaliate
 
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Too many public announcements of tangos intercepted, or caught off late.. Is India building a case for a preemptive operation on Porkistan..
:troll: @iNorthernerOn9 :troll:
These happen regularly, if I am not wrong about a dozen Indian fishermen were arrested 2 weeks ago by Bangladesh Navy, don't know if they have been released.
 
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POK has 2 parts... so called "Azad Kashmir" & "Gilgit Baltistan"... both are geographically different... so 2 different approaches would be required in case of a conquest.

While in Azad-Kashmir part... within 96 hours of initiation of hostilities... Indian army would be knocking the doors of Mirpur, Muzaffarabad and kotli(which are on the periphery of Pakistan proper)... After that the game would be same as in srinagar i.e. "Tum kitne Afzal Maroge, Har ghar se Afzal niklega"


Now coming to Gilgit Baltistan, There are 2 approaches to capture GB:

First... The kargil method: led by infantry & artillery... hundreds if not thousands of troops will be dead in a matter of few weeks... witnessing these casualties... BJP's leaders & workers will fart with the intensity of Hiroshima bomb & BJP will be done & dusted in 2024

so even if BJP gets 5 terms... they won't go for the above approach

Second... Vertical Envelopment/Air-Land Campaign... Led by Airpower & Airborne infantry/artillery... (was practised in Exercise Gaganshakti 2018 in Himachal & UKD)... This approach demands a lot more heavy helicopters than we have or we would be able to afford in future... Requirement is for some 80 chinook... & this is where the Americans come in with the BECA & LEMOA in place... Logistics & Aerial assets would be provided by USA in exchange for already discussed stuff

The above would involve bombing the enemy installations that would be on high altitude & then directly inserting your troops through Chinooks ar comfortable altitudes... saving them from one after another arduous climbs.

In this👆 second approach as well... there would be casualties(much lesser) but that would be manageable by "glorification"

Forgot to mention: Tactical nukes won't be used in J&K... otherwise Pakistan will risk poisoning it's own rivers & would also lose moral high ground on Kashmir

Some members say... first break Pakistan economically & through insurgency... & then take POK... actually the reverse is true... Take POK & they will break bcoz the dream of Kashmir has kept them together

(People... try not to look at things in isolation)
Mass aerial campaign is possible.
1. Ching chongs will be in the picture with cheeeepeck and their asset KKH. Have to figure out a way to keep the bat munchers away. In any case, Porkis will invite chings to have a formal military presence in GB if the need arises.
2. Exclusive Aerial campaign is expensive and we certainly need to be at $8-10 trillion economy for that; or a per capita around $7-8k I.e in upper middle income.

in any case, our low economy is hampering us from being more aggressive.
 

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Peak Paki inbred brain

Giving clout to terrorist activities can make them stronger but Im not sure how. When the International community stopped reporting of isis atrocities a few years ago, they became way weaker and collapsed really fast.

Ive got a feeling that the government wants to avoid causing unneeded anxiety. It is best to pay no attention to them. Businesses are already having a hard time and corona crisis has financially hit a lot of families. No reason to make people panic.

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Maybe the reasoning is that people do irrational things when they panic and we are in a critical moment of our country's history right now. Pakistan cant afford to boost terrorist morale so its best that people stay ignorant. TTP targets desperate boys so we musnt let the vulnerable slip into their hands again.

Maybe its also because news have a tendency to blow things out of proportion which could cause more people joining voluntarily. Extremist motivation is at an all time high and maybe we've got some Afghans who may join them out of spite. Bitter people who lost everything can do the most heartless things imaginable, and there is no doubt that TTP is trying to recruit such people the most.

If things actually start going bad, then Quetta will be hit first like always and there will be news of Hazaras being butchered again. Hazaras get abused by every insurgency imaginable :(

Dont worry. It wont happen because of CPEC and you can be guaranteed that the army will act quick. Infact, the army and the ISI are the only efficient government institution in this country. We arent Afghanistan because we have a functional government and army.

 

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Adrian Levy seems to have a soft corner for ISI.. especially in that interview to Shekhar Gupta.. he talks about cells in ISI working autonomously with terror networks to strike India.. as if that would absolve ISI or Pakistani state.. The fact that Jaish and Let are allowed to operate and its leaders protected by the Pakistani establishment is proof enough to implicate the Pakistani state.. It is more like the CEO of a company not getting involved in the nitty gritty of the R and D department, as long as the R and D guys are able to come up with some product that serves the Company's interest.. The Pakistani state might not be involved in the nitty gritty of terrorist attacks in India, but seems to be quite happy to facilitate and protect the guys doing it, as long as they harm India using jihadi terror..

It is immaterial if the Pulwama attack was planned by Jaish in Afghanistan. As long as the Pakistani state allows Jaish and LeT to operate and collect funds and recruits in Pakistan, and protects people like Masood Azhar, lakhvi and Hafiz Saeed, the Pakistani state is responsible for any Jaish/ LeT attack on India.
 
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Peak Paki inbred brain

Giving clout to terrorist activities can make them stronger but Im not sure how. When the International community stopped reporting of isis atrocities a few years ago, they became way weaker and collapsed really fast.

Ive got a feeling that the government wants to avoid causing unneeded anxiety. It is best to pay no attention to them. Businesses are already having a hard time and corona crisis has financially hit a lot of families. No reason to make people panic.

Edit:

Maybe the reasoning is that people do irrational things when they panic and we are in a critical moment of our country's history right now. Pakistan cant afford to boost terrorist morale so its best that people stay ignorant. TTP targets desperate boys so we musnt let the vulnerable slip into their hands again.

Maybe its also because news have a tendency to blow things out of proportion which could cause more people joining voluntarily. Extremist motivation is at an all time high and maybe we've got some Afghans who may join them out of spite. Bitter people who lost everything can do the most heartless things imaginable, and there is no doubt that TTP is trying to recruit such people the most.

If things actually start going bad, then Quetta will be hit first like always and there will be news of Hazaras being butchered again. Hazaras get abused by every insurgency imaginable :(

Dont worry. It wont happen because of CPEC and you can be guaranteed that the army will act quick. Infact, the army and the ISI are the only efficient government institution in this country. We arent Afghanistan because we have a functional government and army.

Post in porki musings thread
 

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So Imran Khan has openly said that Taliban has broken the chains of slavery of Afghans



One thing is clear that Imran loves to axe his feet regularly, and when his hands get tired he smashes his feet to the axe, from Opening his mouth against France to speaking against Israel to calling Bin Laden a “martyr” to now referring Taliban as some sort of “Saviours”, the negative geopolitical impact will be big for Pakistan. It’s not that one can’t protest against a nation, they can but there are proper diplomatic channels to lodge a protest, opening your mouth on Twitter has negative impacts on bilateral and even global relations. Imran is the best thing happened to India, lage raho Imran bhai, Tabdeeli laate raho.
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Porkis playing with fire….nuclear fire. One has to remember that the US is the only country that has nuked another country and gotten away with it. If the US wanted, they could easily nuke Kandahar, Kabul, etc and let the radiation spread to iran. They would not only make Afghanistan a waste land but make sure that Iran gets some radiation its way [due to earth’s rotation]. Thus killing 2 birds with one stone. Porkis, as usual, are naive and are completely oblivious of what can happen to them if they take on the US and the west. Not even their overlords, the bat munchers can save them, if Porkis play their cards badly. Porkis sending their isi dimwit over there to patch things between the infighting taliban and haqqanis was a bad move. The US wants Qatar to be the peacemakers and not Porkis, and Porkis have as usual done foolish, stupid, atrocious things to piss off the west and Arabs - like they usually do. Arabs know that pork land runs on remittances and oil credit from the gulf. And these guys are heavily aligned with the US. Yet the porki MCs are not able to understand international dynamics and just kill themselves with stupid moves. Just grab some batata vada and watch the self destruction unfold in Porkistan. Porkis are mad people, just maniacs with very little education or brains to understand 21st century dynamics.
 

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