India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Who said I want Pakistani state to exist?

I hate the ideology more than the people believing in it.
And especially not children who aren't indoctrinated yet.
Nah, I am an egalitarian. I hate every Pakistani equally unless they give me a bj. And happen to be a female.
Then they're fine.
I've come to believe that this jihadi mess can't be wiped out by selective targeting. It needs indiscriminate and massive annihilation. Any selective targeting like what US did in Afghanistan will lead to it's ugly head rearing again after any level of respite which is bound to happen.
 

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Was their any massive outcry/guilt trip on this thread when a BJP leader's 5 year son was killed in a grenade blast few days back in Jammu?
Not a guilt trip, just ensuring that those butchers don't try to pin it on us.
Cause we don't do this sheet.
Its those barbarians who killed the kid in Jammu and gloated about it and its the same barbarians who will try to use the pics of kids they killed against us.
 

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I don't care what happens in Paki land.
They can massacre each other and I won't sympathize.

Having said that, as a father to a young one, it's really hard to watch those photos of those kids.

Do I care what happened to them? NO
but I do care that those photos are in my face - have not reached a point where I would watch those young ones and not feel pain & I wish I never reach that point.
 

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Twitter is flooded with Taliban advancing, every second live updates by most senior handles.. so irritating to see this level of obsession over terrorists. Taliban swift movement proved Afghan Army is just bunch of cowards. Without US support, a group of terrorist with guns in a Toyota SUV can occupy whole country. Pathetic inefficient Afghan Army and their unwillingness to fight
 

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Who said I want Pakistani state to exist?

I hate the ideology more than the people believing in it.
And especially not children who aren't indoctrinated yet.
Porkie kids are indoctrinated from the childhood , have you read their textbooks , how do you think their entire populace is so brainwashed and delusional it's because from childhood they are fed lies and delusions and taught fake history.

THIS IS MY THUMB RULE WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH PORKIES:
1) there are two kinds of porkistani terrorists and future terrorists
2) the only good porkie is a dead porkie
3) when in doubt refer to point 1 & 2.
 

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Pakistan is taliban
Pakistan is country where intelligence, military, establishment, non-state actors, etc. runs as a flat organization (also known as horizontal organization or flat hierarchy). For now everyone's interest align in toppling Ashraf Ghani government but once Ashraf Ghani is gone things will be unpredictive.
In Pakistan operations are run by individuals/organization to either forward their agenda or belief. These agenda might be to gain wealth, gain political capital, etc. or beliefs i.e. religious, clans, tribes, family, etc.
For now Pakistan and Taliban are in cahoots but post victory both entities will try to forward their own agenda and belief.
 

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Twitter is flooded with Taliban advancing, every second live updates by most senior handles.. so irritating to see this level of obsession over terrorists. Taliban swift movement proved Afghan Army is just bunch of cowards. Without US support, a group of terrorist with guns in a Toyota SUV can occupy whole country. Pathetic inefficient Afghan Army and their unwillingness to fight
For a regular solider in Afghan Army their is no difference between current Afghan government and Taliban. Why would he be risking his life and for what? In Afghanistan their is no sense of country. Things are divided in clans, tribes and ethnicity.
When senior Afghan official are fleeing why should a solider fight.
Finally Taliban has secured a physiological victor overs minds of regular Afghan soldiers. No one likes to fight if they think they are loosing and if the victors can take revenge on solider and his family.
 

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For a regular solider in Afghan Army their is no difference between current Afghan government and Taliban. Why would he be risking his life and for what? In Afghanistan their is no sense of country. Things are divided in clans, tribes and ethnicity.
When senior Afghan official are fleeing why should a solider fight.
Finally Taliban has secured a physiological victor overs minds of regular Afghan soldiers. No one likes to fight if they think they are loosing and if the victors can take revenge on solider and his family.
There was no fight actually, they just gave it away in a platter as soon as the US quit from Afghanistan. It is hardly 3 weeks Taliban manage to cease the whole region, so the word fight doesn't exits here. Even the motive of US air raid was just to slow down the Taliban movement instead not to stop them. So that they have enough time to vacate the embassy officials in Kabul. IMO everything is pre-planned and executed as per script by US, pak and Arab countries agreement
 

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Afghan is failure from our part as well, GOI succumbed to US pressure. Supicious Ceasefire agreement at LOC is part of the deal and highly debatable. If US lost its credibility then GOI too losing its trustworthy both internally and globally
 

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Afghan is failure from our part as well, GOI succumbed to US pressure. Supicious Ceasefire agreement at LOC is part of the deal and highly debatable. If US lost its credibility then GOI too losing its trustworthy both internally and globally
EXACTLY! India agreed to ceasefire on LoC not because the GoI wants peace with its western neighbor but due to intense pressure put by US on India. Unfortunately, India's foreign policy is dictated by US and US has left India in such a complicated miasma that Indians might as well be kicking themselves. US has a history of backstabbing (non-White/non-European) allies and it does it without any remorse. India should mend ties with Russia no matter what.

On the other hand, I suspect that both US and India have established backchannels with Afghan Taliban and making an effort to turn it against Pakistan and China. US needs China to get embroiled in civil war in Xinxiang province, where it would be easy for Taliban to stoke the flames of Islamic extremism and fundamentalism and create migraine for PRC, while they will let Afghan Talibs to snatch away NWFP from Pakistan and that is the reason Americans left behind military hardware intact.
 

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