India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Did the army foresee problems in Rajouri-Poonch after troops re deployment

If yes, what was the mitigation strategy applied? If nothing was done, why? Who will take the responsibility?

If not, how & why did they arrive at such a conclusion, Who will take responsibility?

Now that we know as a fact there is a problem, what is the mitigation?

Looking for theories.
 

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inshallah gazi hind anytime now

6 new submarines - export variant from china - 3 to be built in pakistan . capable of firing nuclear capable cruise missiles.

stupid pakistan wasting money on things they will never use . india will never start any conflict , ever - doing buildup against a soft country that acts like a punching bag .


cool stuff and everything but i dunno y this guy acting like he cured cancer . shipyard is a small location


Naval officers are a class apart over and above Army or Af officers..saying it from a personal experience of interacting with them all.
heard about navy having best food among all branches.

waiting for our cross-border raid .
 

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Given our security situation, if we take his views at face value and implement them verbatim, we are fucked in the mid to long term.

Hope those in decision making don't take such commentary seriously.
'White Paper on Defence' is indeed a good and mandatory suggestion.

India lacks a National Security Doctrine, period. All our nuclear armed neighbours have one.
 

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Did the army foresee problems in Rajouri-Poonch after troops re deployment

If yes, what was the mitigation strategy applied? If nothing was done, why? Who will take the responsibility?

If not, how & why did they arrive at such a conclusion, Who will take responsibility?

Now that we know as a fact there is a problem, what is the mitigation?

Looking for theories.
Who do you think is at fault here?



Last December, junior defence minister Ajay Bhatt told parliament that the Army faced a shortage of 104,653 personnel, of which 7,476 were officers and 97,177 were jawans, including junior commissioned officers who played a pivotal role as a bridge between officers and other ranks, especially in field operations. And three months later, in late March 2022, Bhatt revealed that all enlistment rallies planned by Army Recruiting Offices/ Zonal Recruitment Offices had been suspended due to the pandemic.
The minister disclosed that of the 97 planned recruitment rallies during 2020-21, only 47 could be held. But even in these, only four Common Entrance Examinations (CEEs) to complete the induction process could be conducted. Subsequently in 2021-22, 87 recruitment rallies were scheduled across the country, of which only four took place; expectedly, no CEEs were held, resulting in no new jawans being inducted into service for two years.
 

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Will it cover internal security too?
it's a policy choice, but it is better to be separate, home ministry and ministry of defence have different mandates, rules and organisational structures. where ever there is jurisdictional overlap could be part of the strategy document, and Home ministry can have their own policy document.
 

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it's a policy choice, but it is better to be separate, home ministry and ministry of defence have different mandates, rules and organisational structures. where ever there is jurisdictional overlap could be part of the strategy document, and Home ministry can have their own policy document.
Elected state and central governments often blame external enemies for internal problems and pass the buck.

At what point do we say 'this internal problem has a solution beyond our borders' but we only have a diplomatic response to it because our military option is not formulated yet?
 

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Elected state and central governments often blame external enemies for internal problems and pass the buck.

At what point do we say 'this internal problem has a solution beyond our borders' but we only have a diplomatic response to it because our military option is not formulated yet?
India had a refugee problem emanating from East Pakistan.

We took the military solution to solve it.

We eliminated a hostile military threat on one border by a vast margin with the creation of Bangladesh which helped us buy time to deal with them if and when they did become a security threat to us.

Right now, they are more of nuisance value and an internal security headache. Solutions are simple here and the Govt. only needs to crack the whip a few times to fix most loopholes that exist today w.r.t Bangladesh.
 

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Elected state and central governments often blame external enemies for internal problems and pass the buck.

At what point do we say 'this internal problem has a solution beyond our borders' but we only have a diplomatic response to it because our military option is not formulated yet?
that's why vajpayee govt created NSA, to fill this loophole. now a days probably cyber crimes will also get added if such a document were to be institutionalised.
 

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India had a refugee problem emanating from East Pakistan.

We took the military solution to solve it.

We eliminated a hostile military threat on one border by a vast margin with the creation of Bangladesh which helped us buy time to deal with them if and when they did become a security threat to us.

Right now, they are more of nuisance value and an internal security headache. Solutions are simple here and the Govt. only needs to crack the whip a few times to fix most loopholes that exist today w.r.t Bangladesh.
use this thread..
 

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In case of India, Internal security problems is directly influenced and steered by External security problems.

At the end prepare a doctrine which will jointly address the both issues.
Nice. 75+ years since independence, we are still in doctrine formulation state.

One decisive move removed the military threat arising out of East Pakistan.

Don't know how long it will take us to neuter West Pakistan.
 

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