India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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How is Modi is BJP related to SOP failure

Why you are making it a political thread.

And how is CT operations in J&K related to PMO ???

Post after post you posting off topic
Flame baits

Nothing is related to military or CT operations on ground

Are have political angle in this ????
This is the same party which politicized the army.
The same party which has the collective IQ of 90 AND claims that only in their tenure has Indian military done significant action, a claim which is historically not only false, but also laughable.
The same party which claims no surgical strikes in nda or upa tenure ever, even though i can name at least 5 done in their time and others know many more.

Maybe tell BJP to stop talking big and for it to actually back up its words. These terrorists are coming not even through LoC anymore, but through other areas. Whose fault is that?
 

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How is Modi or BJP related to SOP failure

Why you are making it a political thread.

And how is CT operations in J&K related to PMO ???

Post after post you posting off topic
Flame baits

Nothing is related to military or CT operations on ground

Why have to find political angle in this ????
How do you know its an SOP failure? How isn't COIN ops not related to GoI? Post after post you're giving BJs to your supreme leader with BS logic.

PM hasn't even tweeted about the incident, let alone any plans to avert such things. Soldiers still having same decades old equipment, and pigs still roaming free.
 

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What did they do after Randori Behak? What did they do after multiple attacks by PAFF? What did they do after Handwara?

Answer: They signed a one-sided ceasefire agreement which our adversary doesn't respect.
Ceasefire was the biggest blunder by this govt
The moment artillery stopped pounding on pakistani soldiers you gave them a free hand in proxy war
 

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What did they do after Randori Behak? What did they do after multiple attacks by PAFF? What did they do after Handwara?

Answer: They signed a one-sided ceasefire agreement which our adversary doesn't respect.
Are you asking indian army here

Because operations in J&K is in IA hands

Even even before ceasefire such attacks happened

And It will in happen in Future as well even after revenge

This is a part of Insurgency
 

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Army has been going past the LoC and eliminating terrorists.
They are killing them like dogs on LoC.

These dogs are coming in through another avenue of approach. This is SOLEY the polticians fault (most army officers above MAJ GEN are politicians anyway)
 

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Al-Qaeda could not replace the leaders such as Osama Bin Laden & Khalid Shiekh Mohammed. ISIS could not replace Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, So decapitation strikes cannot be classified as useless operations.

The problem we face against Pakistan is We are not fighting against a Independent group but a group backed by powerful section of Pakistan armed forces. We must hurt the masters.
Baghdadi gone but nuisance continues. Didn't put an abrupt halt to IS ops.


Al Qaeda wasn't half its devastating self when 9/11 happened. Zawahiri continued after Bin Laden though they couldn't pull off anything as spectacular as 9/11.

Decapitation strikes must happen against the pakistan state(military) and chinese interests. When powerful friends of terror state pakistan can remove them off the fatf grey list, we all should know the bastard state has powerful backers.

We will have to work around them.

One of the most decapitating strikes was the separation of east pakistan. Did precious little but maybe help us buy a few decades of less mayhem at both the borders.

Unless Indian state explicitly admits we are at a civilizational war with the Islamists just as the Israelis openly admit, we will continue to fight with our blinkers on and hands tied behind our backs.
 

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This is the same party which politicized the army.
The same party which has the collective IQ of 90 AND claims that only in their tenure has Indian military done significant action, a claim which is historically not only false, but also laughable.
The same party which claims no surgical strikes in nda or upa tenure ever, even though i can name at least 5 done in their time and others know many more.

Maybe tell BJP to stop talking big and for it to actually back up its words. These terrorists are coming not even through LoC anymore, but through other areas. Whose fault is that?
Well they took at out 370
Which given full controll to indian government

Which is affected kashmir At ground level
Observed by all

First to air raids our conducted after 1971

Even the worst critique of BJP
Will find

Accomplishment of BJP
In last 8 years

I still not get how bjp is at fault at

Operation failure in CT operations???

On tactical level
 

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Baghdadi gone but nuisance continues. Didn't put an abrupt halt to IS ops.


Al Qaeda wasn't half its devastating self when 9/11 happened. Zawahiri continued after Bin Laden though they couldn't pull off anything as spectacular as 9/11.

Decapitation strikes must happen against the pakistan state(military) and chinese interests. When powerful friends of terror state pakistan can remove them off the fatf grey list, we all should know the bastard state has powerful backers.

We will have to work around them.

One of the most decapitating strikes was the separation of east pakistan. Did precious little but maybe help us buy a few decades of less mayhem at both the borders.

Unless Indian state explicitly admits we are at a civilizational war with the Islamists just as the Israelis openly admit, we will continue to fight with our blinkers on and hands tied behind our backs.
Even in older days in the insurgencies Paras would be sent across LoC and used to eradicate whole Jihadi Units.

Blending in they would usually send back reliable intel to RR and infantry, ressulting in mass killings of militants.
 

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Ceasefire was the biggest blunder by this govt
The moment artillery stopped pounding on pakistani soldiers you gave them a free hand in proxy war
Even before the ceasefire

Targeted assassination of Top tier

IA leadership was done

Ceasefire or no Ceasefire

Revenge action or not revenge

Military casualties will happen
In Insurgency area like J&k or NE

Until our adversary state exist
 

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First to air raids our conducted after 1971
False again! Kargil air strikes, Operation Parakram Airstrikes.
I still not get how bjp is at fault at

Operation failure in CT operations???

On tactical level
This aint a tactical failure its a strategic failure. These pigs are not crossing through LoC they are crossing via other border regions.
Well they took at out 370
Which given full controll to indian government
Rajiv Gandhi didn't let foreign HRW agents set foot in Kashmir. And how has 370 been consolidated?
Which is affected kashmir At ground level
Observed by all
Nope. Not consolidated at all. Actually the only time in which Paras were ambushed with zero enemy tangos nuetralized has happened this year.
 

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False again! Kargil air strikes, Operation Parakram Airstrikes.

This aint a tactical failure its a strategic failure. These pigs are not crossing through LoC they are crossing via other border regions.

Rajiv Gandhi didn't let foreign HRW agents set foot in Kashmir. And how has 370 been consolidated?

Nope. Not consolidated at all. Actually the only time in which Paras were ambushed with zero enemy tangos nuetralized has happened this year.
Just do it
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So does GOI have any plan to stop the insurgency?
Nah but their cultists do have excuses
 

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He ain't a brigade commander, he is an army commander of the most active and sensitive command in IA, and maybe also the biggest
What even can he do? You know once, let me tell you aukaat of these politicians and upper brass.

One time Maj gen GD bakshi was Kishtwar Sector commander from 2000 right till the end of 2002.

When a massacare happened, the upper brass and politicians fussed at the Northern Command, which in turn got angry at Bakshi sir.

Bakshi sir then told that he had given a written request to not remove a battalion from his AOR. You know what he was told by upper brass/politicians? "Shut Up". This is how these clowns treat field officers.
 

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Giving political angle at this juncture is completely wrong.
And adding "jeets" at the end if any word to insult Indians and digress from the topic is just plain and simple low IQ stuff.
 

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