India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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IBG concept validation exercises. Nothing to be alarmed about. Unless there is intent or an alibi, nothing is going to happen. We are not going to invade PoK, and we are not going to take back Aksai Chin.
Sit tight and enjoy yoga, the Nobel peace price, and a growing economy.
 

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Pakistani Bayarktar TB2 Drone

Pakistan thought that they have one leg up when they purchased or got in the line to purchase Turkish Bayarkatar TB2 armed drone. These had succeeded very well in the uncontested air space in Azerbaijan and Syria. It also succeeded in the first few days of Ukraine war when Russians were fumbling their way thru Ukrainian resistance. Once the Russians got organized then these were shot down in large numbers (20 out of 30). One or two were captured intact which gave away all its secrets. Now the line to buy these drones has reduced at the Turkish sales office.

In India- Pakistan context, it will be totally unsuccessful. The airspace along the LOC and along the India-Pakistan border is heavily defended by missiles, anti-aircraft guns and fighter jet scrambled to shoot the TB2 down. It is a low flying drones hence easy target for the heavily defended airspace.

Hence TB2 purchase by Pakistan at $5 million a piece is worthless. It cannot come within the 10km of the border, because air defences become active and will shout it down.

India opting for high end surveillance drones (Heron, MQ9 and Indian made Tapas) is far more effective. These can pickup all the information the Army needs and not come within 10 km of effective air defence Zone. The aggressive work of destroying Pakistani Tanks, artillery, radar sites, communication network is done by very cheap and highly effective locally made Suicide Drones in swarms (if in doubt then read about the success of cheap Iranian suicide drones which in Russian hands have created a havoc in Ukraine). A multitude of these in India are under development. Next few years will see a host of these suicide drones for less than $20,000 a piece built and delivered to Indian Army by Indian private enterprises.

Hence a very urgent call for drones by Pakistan has resulted in bad decision and wasted $200 million.
 

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#Pakistan Rangers refused to accept sweets offered by BSF on #BSFRaisingDay 1st Dec. From Jammu to #Gujrat nowhere they accepted the sweets

LMAO

So this guy is complaining that Pak rangers aren't as woke as BSF?

Imagine being so shameless that you have a tradition of exchanging sweets with an enemy who's motto is to destroy you by a 1000 cuts.
 

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Pakistani Bayarktar TB2 Drone

Pakistan thought that they have one leg up when they purchased or got in the line to purchase Turkish Bayarkatar TB2 armed drone. These had succeeded very well in the uncontested air space in Azerbaijan and Syria. It also succeeded in the first few days of Ukraine war when Russians were fumbling their way thru Ukrainian resistance. Once the Russians got organized then these were shot down in large numbers (20 out of 30). One or two were captured intact which gave away all its secrets. Now the line to buy these drones has reduced at the Turkish sales office.

In India- Pakistan context, it will be totally unsuccessful. The airspace along the LOC and along the India-Pakistan border is heavily defended by missiles, anti-aircraft guns and fighter jet scrambled to shoot the TB2 down. It is a low flying drones hence easy target for the heavily defended airspace.

Hence TB2 purchase by Pakistan at $5 million a piece is worthless. It cannot come within the 10km of the border, because air defences become active and will shout it down.

India opting for high end surveillance drones (Heron, MQ9 and Indian made Tapas) is far more effective. These can pickup all the information the Army needs and not come within 10 km of effective air defence Zone. The aggressive work of destroying Pakistani Tanks, artillery, radar sites, communication network is done by very cheap and highly effective locally made Suicide Drones in swarms (if in doubt then read about the success of cheap Iranian suicide drones which in Russian hands have created a havoc in Ukraine). A multitude of these in India are under development. Next few years will see a host of these suicide drones for less than $20,000 a piece built and delivered to Indian Army by Indian private enterprises.

Hence a very urgent call for drones by Pakistan has resulted in bad decision and wasted $200 million.
Although they won't be useful against india they are pretty useful in operations such as counter insurgency and surveillance, so not a waste of money.
Inida should quickly execute operation cheetah to use this drones against naxals
 

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I still think that 1971 was one of the greatest wars we've ever fought. On the levels of Desert Storm, in planning, logistics, training, execution, .. you name it.

Infact I'm probably doing this comparison wrong.. Desert Storm was on the level of the Bangladesh Liberation War. Hope our military returns to that level once again. Tibetian liberation is also booked for the future.
 

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I still think that 1971 was one of the greatest wars we've ever fought. On the levels of Desert Storm, in planning, logistics, training, execution, .. you name it.

Infact I'm probably doing this comparison wrong.. Desert Storm was on the level of the Bangladesh Liberation War. Hope our military returns to that level once again.
Finally a post from you that I can like.
 

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I still think that 1971 was one of the greatest wars we've ever fought. On the levels of Desert Storm, in planning, logistics, training, execution, .. you name it.

Infact I'm probably doing this comparison wrong.. Desert Storm was on the level of the Bangladesh Liberation War. Hope our military returns to that level once again. Tibetian liberation is also booked for the future.
>Made Bangladesh
>largest surrender from WW2
>against a foe with the blessing of the Europeans and American weapons, so a more peer enemy.
> fought a two front war.
>China pussied out
>stared america and europe down with the help of Jewish Union

Some of the battles, raids (Mandhol, Chachro) are simply legendary in this war.
 

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>Made Bangladesh
>largest surrender from WW2
>against a foe with the blessing of the Europeans and American weapons, so a more peer enemy.
> fought a two front war.
>China pussied out
>stared america and europe down with the help of Jewish Union

Some of the battles, raids (Mandhol, Chachro) are simply legendary in this war.
I don't want to circlejerk much, but you're talking about the same nation that birthed people who fought off Alexander, conquered almost the entire South Asian coast, fought off the 10,000 Afghanis at Saragarhi. It is no doubt that 1971 happened. It's in the blood.

The only thing that's stops us from winning is the amount of corruption and inertia in the administrations. 1971 with Indira Gandhi and Sam Manekshaw, and many others - was the ultimate example of what happens when they do work(and this was only 20 years into independence!)
 

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I don't want to circlejerk much, but you're talking about the same nation that birthed people who fought off Alexander, conquered almost the entire South Asian coast, fought off the 10,000 Afghanis at Saragarhi. It is no doubt that 1971 happened. It's in the blood.

The only thing that's stops us from winning is the amount of corruption and inertia in the administrations. 1971 with Indira Gandhi and Sam Manekshaw, and many others - was the ultimate example of what happens when they do work(and this was only 20 years into independence!)
Yeah, the Indian history is full of resistance, even when we lost, we down fighting, that’s what counts. We don’t surrender we fight till the finish.

Indian Generals were very talented back then. BC Joshi (creator of RR), Sagat Singh (who made 2 divisions of pakistan army fold to him in just 5 days), Harbaksh Singh (savior of Punjab- 1965), and we can go back to 1947 and find many exceptional officers like Pritam Singh, the lion of Poonch!

This talent needs to manifest today. We need to show whose the boss. Not america. Not “Russia” (soon to be Ukraine by 2023). Not paper dragon China, but India.
 

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Yeah, the Indian history is full of resistance, even when we lost, we down fighting, that’s what counts. We don’t surrender we fight till the finish.

Indian Generals were very talented back then. BC Joshi (creator of RR), Sagat Singh (who made 2 divisions of pakistan army fold to him in just 5 days), Harbaksh Singh (savior of Punjab- 1965), and we can go back to 1947 and find many exceptional officers like Pritam Singh, the lion of Poonch!

This talent needs to manifest today. We need to show whose the boss. Not america. Not “Russia” (soon to be Ukraine by 2023). Not paper dragon China, but India.
Yeah that time too will come. Let's get our economy and country going steadily up, because a war with China is literally written for the future. Last time we went to full-on war, we split a country in half. Next time we gotta be ready for the same.
 

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