India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

omaebakabaka

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interesting note Ukrainans fitted AGM-88 HARM on MIG's to attack Russian AD systems.
What exactly they destroyed? So far, western supplies had zero effect other than hitting civilian targets and one or two sabotage on Crimea airfields. West is grade D as far as equipment goes, Russians slowly moving is killing Ukrainian army at the roots. Slow moving tornado causes more damage.
 

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What exactly they destroyed? So far, western supplies had zero effect other than hitting civilian targets and one or two sabotage on Crimea airfields. West is grade D as far as equipment goes, Russians slowly moving is killing Ukrainian army at the roots. Slow moving tornado causes more damage.
The west is not going to give top of the line equipment to Ukraine. When you are getting something free
you do not get the best. EU has not given much last few months mostly american weapons being tested?
 

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The west is not going to give top of the line equipment to Ukraine. When you are getting something free
you do not get the best. EU has not given much last few months mostly american weapons being tested?
Javelins and other ATGM's are new, M777 nor himars are making any difference if at all and manned by westerns mercs/sof and NATO intel. Piss poor performance if you ask me. Ukrainians are holding pretty well under certain death odds. Whole western advantages is based on their air dominance mostly and stand off capability and this war has proven it pretty much. They can't win insurgency nor equal power fight but they can destroy cities indiscriminately bombing. This was proven in Serbia bombing too
 

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Javelins and other ATGM's are new, M777 nor himars are making any difference if at all and manned by westerns mercs/sof and NATO intel. Piss poor performance if you ask me. Ukrainians are holding pretty well under certain death odds.
imo Ukrainians have not been given enough training, they always used cold war soviet era
weaponry this new western weaponry is hard for them to adapt too??
 

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imo Ukrainians have not been given enough training, they always used cold war soviet era
weaponry this new western weaponry is hard for them to adapt too??
It is not easy to fight 1st grade power like Russia even for US. Ukraine is simply outgunned in every aspect. No training will change the output short of NATO airforce but even that NATO won't stand a chance against AD nor cruise missile hits on their bases and ships. This is played to cause 1000 cuts to Russia but so far result is not out....anyway India has a lot to learn from this in terms of ammo stocks, civil defence, NCC basic firearms training and retired voluntary units and soon. Trenching is exemplary from the videos I have seen, ukraine and nato did some good preparation to go on offence but Rukies preempted
 

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Large scale devastation by floods & then begging the world for aid... meanwhile military build-up continues.

2 noteworthy inductions in past 3 days👇





I think this is why western nations are throwing only few thousands or few hundred thousands in 'flood relief aid'... they know where the aid will end up.
Hmm… so the Pakis got AESA weapon locating radars from the Chinese while we started inducting older tech PESA Swati radar (delayed by obligatory summer, winter… mom, mars trials etc) a just few years back :dude:.
 

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Hmm… so the Pakis got AESA weapon locating radars from the Chinese while we started inducting older tech PESA Swati radar (delayed by obligatory summer, winter… mom, mars trials etc) a just few years back :dude:.
‘Don’t worry; the Chinese supplied weapons including radar works on occasionally. Out of all the Pakistanis should know the best. Their Chinese supplied JF-17 have refused to perform and that includes many other items.
 

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‘Don’t worry; the Chinese supplied weapons including radar works on occasionally. Out of all the Pakistanis should know the best. Their Chinese supplied JF-17 have refused to perform and that includes many other items.
Yh right 🤣🤣🤣 We are complementing the older variants you carry on believing your daydream.
 

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Hmm… so the Pakis got AESA weapon locating radars from the Chinese while we started inducting older tech PESA Swati radar (delayed by obligatory summer, winter… mom, mars trials etc) a just few years back :dude:.
How would a WLR benefit from AESA technology ? :dude: PESA is just fine. I don't think we are at any disadvantage here. I would like to see Pakistan keeping all the equipment they are getting operational in the long run.
 

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Hmm… so the Pakis got AESA weapon locating radars from the Chinese while we started inducting older tech PESA Swati radar (delayed by obligatory summer, winter… mom, mars trials etc) a just few years back :dude:.
As long as India can produce useful and working equipment indigenously and in numbers at war time, having a gen difference by importing like Pak does not make a difference in the outcome. This is obvious as of now from Russian Ukraine war
 

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Hmm… so the Pakis got AESA weapon locating radars from the Chinese while we started inducting older tech PESA Swati radar (delayed by obligatory summer, winter… mom, mars trials etc) a just few years back :dude:.
Waiting for the inevitable "Premium costs for spare parts" and "failing quality of Chinese weapons" news.

I know it's not wise to rely on an enemy's weakness to do your bidding but it's inevitable.
 

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