India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[Jimih]

Mudi is planning to continue another term. And he will not want to ruin his 56DDD strongman image by going down in history as the indian wimp who bent over and opened wide to the pak army chief.

This Double D, Triple D nomenclature only reminds me of one thing.

See naughty mind of mine

 

[vidhwanshak]

I hope Mudi ji doesn't gift them wheat to improve relationship with jehadis

 

[Jimih]

I hope Mudi ji doesn't gift them wheat to improve relationship with jehadis

So we will make jibes on them later.

But due to their Fake Supremacy mindset they will not take the offer.

 

[here2where]

I hope Mudi ji doesn't gift them wheat to improve relationship with jehadis

Tricky situation indeed.

Continue to ban wheat exports to control price rise of chapatis and save Gujarat elections.

Or

Lift the export ban and feed chapatis to the torn salwars so that they can come across the border and get shot by our expensive shiny toys and ze mudi goes from 56DDD to 56DDDD.

Hmmm, Life is full of difficult decisions.

 

[ezsasa]

Tricky situation indeed.

Continue to ban wheat exports to control price rise of chapatis and save Gujarat elections.

Or

Lift the export ban and feed chapatis to the torn salwars so that they can come across the border and get shot by our expensive shiny toys and ze mudi goes from 56DDD to 56DDDD.

Hmmm, Life is full of difficult decisions.

there is no ban, G2G exports are continuing.

 

[here2where]

there is no ban, G2G exports are continuing.

Ok so this “offer” by india has to be seen in the context of the track-2 talks.

 

[ezsasa]

Ok so this “offer” by india has to be seen in the context of the track-2 talks.

them pakiland idiots are desperate for a distraction for their public to focus on.

 

[JConline]

Lets not ignore the humongous cost to the nation and to the taxpayers to fund this losing reactionary proxy war with pak.

To avoid this slow bleeding by 1000 cuts, we have 2 clear options -

1. Be man enough to accept that geopolitical realities are against us and settle the issue permanently by giving in to the pak demands. Or

2. Be man enough to take the fight to the opposition, provoke and draw them into an outright war and settle the issue.

Note that both options requires spine.

No 2 won't solve anything tbh. India has fought with Pakistan over Kashmir many times and it hasn't changed squat. The problem in Kashmir is not only Pakistan but the residents of Kashmir and the Indian policy in Kashmir as well. It's true that Kashmiris have never been made to feel included in the Indian common wealth until very recently. So the general mindset of the common Kashmiri will take time to sway to the Indian side. The only reason Pak sponsored terrorism works in Kashmir is because Kashmiris themselves weren't really fond of India either.
So really, neither of the two are solutions, atleast not to solving the Kashmiri issue ones and for all. Yeah, now you if you say that India needs to stand up against Pakistan's misadventures then absolutely, the targetted killing in Kashmir has been going on for way too long now and India needs to do something stern about it.
But as for effectively making Kashmir an integral part of India, including it's people, there really needs to be inclusive governance from the Indian side.

 

[here2where]

them pakiland idiots are desperate for a distraction for their public to focus on.

Agree. Even getting india to the table would be seen as a massive achievement by the new crooks and their awaam.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Another way to look at it is The Kashmir Files and the brazen targeted killings mean no one in the world will ever listen to Porki jaahils on Kashmir ever. Sure, the Pandits and minorities might pack their bags and leave the valley so we can go all out and cleanse the valley once again - this time the cleansing has to be in Neelum valley with territory holding Sharda retrieved. Then build an entire city with airports and everything for Hindus and minorities right next to Marthand temple in Anantnag and make it the economic capital of the Kashmir valley.
The tricky part for Modi is:
- you cannot keep saying to Hindus that you will play into Porki hands if you flee. This current killing would have rattled the minorities. There is every chance that several Hindus are already packing their bags to Jammu.
- how to prevent these terrorists from accessing weapons in Afghanistan and KPK. Use covert means to do irreparable damage to these gun making factories.
- how to warn off China from supporting Porkland, which is the only thing preventing them from getting into a spiral of self destruction and balkanization.

At this point:
- I say overtly declare support for Balochistan and Sindh independence
- Publicly articulate that India’s policy is to see a Balkanized Pakistan. Start getting international support for it.
- Bomb CPEC routes in PoK saying that it is in disputed territory.
- Start taking steps to cancel IWT.
- Take out an expensive Porki defense asset for every such targeted killing here.

 

[here2where]

No 2 won't solve anything tbh. India has fought with Pakistan over Kashmir many times and it hasn't changed squat. The problem in Kashmir is not only Pakistan but the residents of Kashmir and the Indian policy in Kashmir as well. It's true that Kashmiris have never been made to feel included in the Indian common wealth until very recently. So the general mindset of the common Kashmiri will take time to sway to the Indian side. The only reason Pak sponsored terrorism works in Kashmir is because Kashmiris themselves weren't really fond of India either.
So really, neither of the two are solutions, atleast not to solving the Kashmiri issue ones and for all. Yeah, now you if you say that India needs to stand up against Pakistan's misadventures then absolutely, the targetted killing in Kashmir has been going on for way too long now and India needs to do something stern about it.
But as for effectively making Kashmir an integral part of India, including it's people, there really needs to be inclusive governance from the Indian side.

<RobberVadra>
Are you serious?
</RobberVadra>

That bloody leach of a region sucks up the largest % of central grants to keep it afloat and still the dumb bitches feel they ain’t part of the family?

Danda. Only danda will do the trick.

Discussion is on napaks. Not bitches within our borders.

 

[Jimih]

<RobberVadra>
Are you serious?
</RobberVadra>

That bloody leach of a region sucks up the largest % of central grants to keep it afloat and still the dumb bitches feel they ain’t part of the family?

Danda. Only danda will do the trick.

Discussion is on napaks. Not bitches within our borders.

No he is right.

I have been there and also know people who were there (armed services)

He said, "Kashmiris don't have Ratti bhar respect for Indian Government and Rest Of India in general".

Keyword: Ratti Bhar

 

[DEV1729]

No he is right.

I have been there and also know people who were there (armed services)

He said, "Kashmiris don't have Ratti bhar respect for Indian Government and Rest Of India in general".

Keyword: Ratti Bhar

Islamists are not kashmiris they are timurid invaders and illegal occupiers of hindu lands

 

[cereal killer]

Lets not ignore the humongous cost to the nation and to the taxpayers to fund this losing reactionary proxy war with pak.

To avoid this slow bleeding by 1000 cuts, we have 2 clear options -

1. Be man enough to accept that geopolitical realities are against us and settle the issue permanently by giving in to the pak demands. Or

2. Be man enough to take the fight to the opposition, provoke and draw them into an outright war and settle the issue.

Note that both options requires spine.

Option 2 looks more feasible. My theory is it has been loooong time a proper phainta has been served to inbreds. They have perceived that current Indian society in general has lost appetite for war which maybe is correct.
A Feb 2019 like incidents in 80's & 90's would have definitely provoked a war. Risk taking in Indian politics now is minimal. India used to be mercurial & unpredictable at times. Now that's probably not the case.
All these factors have led to Paki establishment getting bolder. And continue its 1000 cuts policy knowing retaliation won't be severe or at best extremely mild.

 

[here2where]

No he is right.

I have been there and also know people who were there (armed services)

He said, "Kashmiris don't have Ratti bhar respect for Indian Government and Rest Of India in general".

Keyword: Ratti Bhar

Starve the bitches i say.
If, despite sucking out the largest pie from our country’s wealth, gives them a sense of victimhood, they need to realise how victims really feel.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

GoI is building an AIIMS in Kashmir valley but nothing for the most loyal Ladakhis. Central University in Ladakh is also very slow. What message is the government trying to send? That being loyal means GoI won’t care about you? This messaging is bad.

 

[Jimih]

Starve the bitches i say.
If, despite sucking out the largest pie from our country’s wealth, gives them a sense of victimhood, they need to realise how victims really feel.

They have some sort of supremacy mindset, they are living in their own la la land.

 

[vidhwanshak]

No 2 won't solve anything tbh. India has fought with Pakistan over Kashmir many times and it hasn't changed squat. The problem in Kashmir is not only Pakistan but the residents of Kashmir and the Indian policy in Kashmir as well. It's true that Kashmiris have never been made to feel included in the Indian common wealth until very recently. So the general mindset of the common Kashmiri will take time to sway to the Indian side. The only reason Pak sponsored terrorism works in Kashmir is because Kashmiris themselves weren't really fond of India either.
So really, neither of the two are solutions, atleast not to solving the Kashmiri issue ones and for all. Yeah, now you if you say that India needs to stand up against Pakistan's misadventures then absolutely, the targetted killing in Kashmir has been going on for way too long now and India needs to do something stern about it.
But as for effectively making Kashmir an integral part of India, including it's people, there really needs to be inclusive governance from the Indian side.

According to me, INDIA never invaded POK since its independence. So the claim, "India has fought with Pakistan over Kashmir many times and it hasn't changed squat" doesn't really stand true.

As for the second part, where you talked about the average Kashmiri not being fond of India, how can you expect a highly radicalized Islamic society to accept kaffir as their rulers? Are you blatantly ignoring that the Kashmir conflict is not about separatism but about jihad, reclaiming "Muslim land" from the hindus?

Those who keep forgetting why the average Kashmiri doesn't feel Indian, need to watch this AGAIN


The only way forward in Kashmir is goverment controlling these masjids where these jihadis are manufactured. Children needs to be given their basic right of going to school and these madrassa should be banned.

The fact that after 25 years of continuous conflict, despite knowing the root cause of terrorism, goverment hasn't banned these madrassa, tells you a lot about the average Kashmiri and government will to bring the so called mythical "normalancy" in the land.

 

[captain talion]

They have some sort of supremacy mindset, they are living in their own la la land.

demography change can be done cuz kashmiri muslim women have pregnancy related problem i.e they are infertile due to unhealthy lifestyle that is why their fertility rate is 1.4 . The demography there can easily be changed https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-how-jks-lowest-fertility-rate-is-a-success-story-in-itself/402672#:~:text=The latest National Family Health,is in J&K at 1.4.

 

[captain talion]

demography change can be done cuz kashmiri muslim women have pregnancy related problem i.e they are infertile due to unhealthy lifestyle that is why their fertility rate is 1.4 . The demography there can easily be changed https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-how-jks-lowest-fertility-rate-is-a-success-story-in-itself/402672#:~:text=The latest National Family Health,is in J&K at 1.4.

if government is interested then it is not a difficult task for demography change there