India in Afghanistan - regional diplomacy and interests after US withdrawal.

Jimih

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2021
Messages
4,189
Likes
22,688
Country flag
Russia ki gaand phati hain.. that's why trying to make nice with Pakistan, and at the same time beefing up military presence at Afghan border with central asia.. By visiting Georgia, India has shown to Russia, that it better come out of its superpower delusions.. A country with just a 1.7 trillion dollar economy can be nothing more than a regional power...
Russia has become a 'Meme Country'.

YouTube is full of "Only in Russia" videos.
 

Lost user

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 9, 2021
Messages
1,990
Likes
9,256
Country flag
No personal problem - but Russia now sees Pakistan as a key partner in building Eurasian influence.


I have mentioned before - The land that is currently Pakistan was the gateway of India to Middle East, Central Asia and Europe. Losing it has caused A limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world.

Our short-sighted leaders during independence really screwed the future of India.
You seem to be too taken by this geo economic drivel which usually keeps being spouted by Pakistan and some Chinese and Russia affiliated analysts...
India does not need Pakistan to connect with the Middle East.. There is not much trade between Iran and Pakistan anyway.. as Sistan Balochistan is huge and barren.. We are very much connected to the middle east via the sea..
And connecting to Europe via land routes, is nothing but some cosmetic excercise.. This long trade route and it's capacity as compared to sea Bourne trade is miniscule.. And land based trade is too costly.. That apart all central Asian countries and Afghanistan together have a population half of Pakistan, and are dirt poor.. Not much to trade with them.. India is a much stronger union today, because it does not have the muslim majority provinces of Pakistan and Bangladesh.. The only way Pakistan and Bangladesh would have agreed to an undivided India, was if the Centre was impotent and had not much powers over the muslim majority provinces.. Such an arrangement would have killed the Indian union in a couple of decades..
 

Jimih

Senior Member
Joined
May 20, 2021
Messages
4,189
Likes
22,688
Country flag
I have mentioned before - The land that is currently Pakistan was the gateway of India to Middle East, Central Asia and Europe. Losing it has caused A limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world.

Our short-sighted leaders during independence really screwed the future of India.
My perspective is bit different, Pakistan is acting as a Buffer State in preventing extreme form of Islamisation from Central Asia and Middle East to fully enter India.

Partition was the best thing happened to India and non-muslims. But again in reality losing 45% of Kashmir state has caused a limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world (CA and ME). We dont need via Pakistan to cross over those regions...Kashmir was enough.
 

WARREN SS

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
3,685
Likes
12,295
Country flag
@another_armchair did not talk about dawood and 26/11.. He talked about you saying dawood being a RAW man.. which makes RAW responsible for 93 Bombay blasts..
And every Bacha on DFI knows India sponsored LTTE, and we have links with Chota Rajan.. This has been an open secret for decades...
So that
LTTE murdered Rajiv Gandhi and killed hundreds of Indian soldiers didn't they ???

Did read u my post

Prabhakaran "Was" R&AW asset once
Which turned rogue and ultimately
Became asset for foreign agencies including ISI.


Like D company once "Was" once

Rajan doesn't came out of the blue
In 2005
His links date back with Indian agencies
Way back and many others

Read about J day murder who was a Senior Editor
In HT
What was he Unconvering ???

The impunity in which Mumbai under world operated in 80's,90's
Isn't without agency backing.

Even today Drug Syndicate that operates within Mumbai and other cities

Doesn't operates without backing of Mumbai CB
And other agency

Doesn't you find how CBI
Gone silent 🤫 suddenly npt going too deep into
Drug Syndicate in Mumbai
Why BJP will hesitate to get Level UP on
It's adversaries.??

Nothing will come out it Never will.

I advice you to read some books regarding
R&AW operations by Various EX Intelligence
Officials


These Deep things never come out
No one thought about mass surveillance like "Prism" until Snowden and Wiki leaks

Many things like how R&AW provided Safe houses
To Mossad within Indian territory
Funding there operations and Assets
For years
(YEAH this was once too came in media
Ultimately Agencies Killed News wires )


Pegasus is just tip of the mountain

George soros and Ford Foundation



It's really strange for You guys to think 🤔 that
R&AW is a Ethical to the Book agency

While CIA and ISI is not ??


Do you know about the Jaffana air drop in
Initial Phases of Operational Pawan

Why was MI not keen in including R&AW into the fold ???

How do you think even having planning So Covertly
How did LTTE pointed out locations of Air drops??

Questions no one will ever Ask ??
 
Last edited:

another_armchair

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2019
Messages
3,286
Likes
15,915
Country flag
No personal problem - but Russia now sees Pakistan as a key partner in building Eurasian influence.


I have mentioned before - The land that is currently Pakistan was the gateway of India to Middle East, Central Asia and Europe. Losing it has caused a limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world.

Our short-sighted leaders during independence really screwed the future of India.
More man and material flowed along the sea routes between India and the Middle East than the land route.

The land route was filled with bandits and fraught with risks.

Our entire West coast starting from Gujarat all the way down to Kerala served them.

Good many parts of Gujarat are still connected through the sea route, particularly places like Salaya, Okha, Jamnagar etc. People freely travel from there to Pakistan and Middle East even as of today though there's talk about big navy, big coast guard etc. Smuggling of goods is rampant.

If you recollect, Gujarati fishermen were killed by Ajmal Kasab and gang. Won't go into details of why 'they' were picked in order to give credence to Hindu terror bogey.
 
Last edited:

Maharaj samudragupt

Kritant Parashu
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2020
Messages
6,886
Likes
19,555
Country flag
My perspective is bit different, Pakistan is acting as a Buffer State in preventing extreme form of Islamisation from Central Asia and Middle East to fully enter India.

Partition was the best thing happened to India and non-muslims. But again in reality losing 45% of Kashmir state has caused a limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world (CA and ME). We dont need via Pakistan to cross over those regions...Kashmir was enough.
There are no rabid Muslims than pakis.
 

WARREN SS

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 12, 2013
Messages
3,685
Likes
12,295
Country flag
No personal problem - but Russia now sees Pakistan as a key partner in building Eurasian influence.


I have mentioned before - The land that is currently Pakistan was the gateway of India to Middle East, Central Asia and Europe. Losing it has caused a limitation to our geopolitical and economic influence to that part of the world.

Our short-sighted leaders during independence really screwed the future of India.
This shows indecisive nature of Our diplomatic stance

Are over the Top Urealist Nationalist approach
Regarding alliance

While you may call Pakistan slave state its
Submission get them Support of Two major polar opposite super power like China and USA

We not learned anything from Chinese how
They slowly build there National power and Economic might aligning itself too the west even
Being major Soviet Ally

While we work as Kremlin And KGB lackies until 1990

Even today we have non consistent regarding alignment towards the Western nations

What we did after 2014
having Nationalist govt we
Shows are fangs to soon
Without any Core support to stand are own.

Unlike Chinese who took 50 years to now were they are
As Challenger to Western hegemonic forces
 

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top