India could be the first foreign customer to order the Russian S-500 system

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Source: Defence View

India could be the first customer of the Russian S-500 anti-space-weapon defense system despite the risk of US sanctions, Moscow claim.


The S-500 Prometey also known as 55R6M “Triumfator-M”, is a Russian surface-to-air missile/anti-ballistic missile. An advanced new anti-aircraft rocket system hailed as the first ever capable of taking out incoming missiles from low-space orbit could be snapped up by Indian defense chiefs in a move likely to anger the US, Moscow has said.

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told journalists on Thursday that New Delhi could “potentially” become the first foreign capital to place an order for the S-500. However, he said, equipping Russia’s own troops with the latest technology would have to be completed before it is considered for sale overseas.


“When we meet the needs of our own armed forces, we can issue an export passport,” he said. “After that, the supreme commander-in-chief [Russian President Vladimir Putin] can decide on whether to grant deliveries to India, if they apply for it.”



Borisov said that friendly relations with New Delhi and the lack of shared regional conflicts made them a low-risk customer for advanced hardware. “In some cases, we are happy to sell to India what we don’t sell to other countries,” he said.


The S-500 is a cutting-edge rocket system capable of taking out fighter jets flying at the fastest speeds, as well as reportedly being capable of hitting even hypersonic weapons in near-Earth space. Chief Commander of the Aerospace Forces Sergei Surovikin has claimed that it represents the first generation of anti-space weapons, and that no other such systems currently exist.

However, the US has attempted to block international sales of the rocket system’s predecessor, the S-400, even imposing sanctions on NATO member Turkey for placing an order. The Pentagon has warned that, even in friendly hands, the anti-aircraft weapon poses a threat to one of its most advanced fighters, the F-35.

General Todd Wolters of the US European Command has said that the launcher would “attempt to exploit the F-35’s capabilities,” regardless of which side of the battlefield it was on. “You cannot operate an F-35 in the vicinity of an S-400,” he said.


Despite the threat of sanctions, more than a dozen nations placed orders for the S-400, including those that frequently buy preferentially from US military-industrial suppliers, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Currently, Russia has completed tests of its new S-500 surface-to-air missile system and has started supplying it to the armed forces, the RIA news agency quoted deputy prime minister Yuri Borisov as saying on Thursday. the missile has undergone several live-fire tests at the Surrey-Shagan Proving Ground in Kazakhstan. The interceptor is designed to destroy enemy ballistic missiles. The difference from conventional anti-aircraft ammunition lies in its higher flight speed and more complex guidance system

S-500 Radar


The S-500 missile’s anti-missile capability mainly relies on three major blocks: the 85Z62 anti-missile command post, the 76T6/77T6 active electrically scanned array radar, and the 77N6-N (short-range)/N-1 (long-range) interceptor; The S-500 system can not only close air defense and intercept ballistic missiles, but also counter low-orbit satellites.

The radar of the S-500 anti-ballistic missile is an X-band active phased array radar, with a long detection range of 750 to 800 kilometers, a missile range of 500 kilometers, and a firing height of 200 kilometers.
 

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Frankly speaking, S400 would probably be the last air defence system we will outrightly import. The Pradyumna ballistic missile defence system is ready. While S400s are essentially air defence for missiles and fighter jets, they also act as quasi-anti-ballistic missiles.

However, we should seriously look at collaborating with Russians on the hypersonic missiles and missile defence. They are making shit that is straight out of an enemy's nightmares. Check this missile test; I don't know what missile it is, but the sheer speed (not being sped up) is mind-numbing.

 

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Frankly speaking, S400 would probably be the last air defence system we will outrightly import. The Pradyumna ballistic missile defence system is ready. While S400s are essentially air defence for missiles and fighter jets, they also act as quasi-anti-ballistic missiles.

However, we should seriously look at collaborating with Russians on the hypersonic missiles and missile defence. They are making shit that is straight out of an enemy's nightmares. Check this missile test; I don't know what missile it is, but the sheer speed (not being sped up) is mind-numbing.

That sound is pleasing and terrifying at the same time.
 

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Russia likely to export new S-500 missile systems to India, China


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Russia may supply its cutting-edge S-500 anti-aircraft missile systems to India and China in the future, Dmitry Shugaev, the director of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC), has said.
 

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India may become first in line to buy Russian air defence system S-500: Deputy PM Borisov

Moscow [Russia], December 13 (ANI): Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov on Monday said that India may become the first in line to buy Russian air defence system S-500, if it expresses such a desire after the Russian Armed Forces receive them in the required quantity.


well!! subtle messaging..
 

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What good is it if they supply both IA and PLA with it? Ruskis playing the baniyas?
 

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They're doing exactly what we're doing with them and the americans, cant complain too much 😬
Agreed, but we are the clients, i.e. the ones with💰 and shouldn't we be calling the shots?

At least some strings attached - like PA/PLA cant have what we buy etc.
 
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Agreed, but we are the clients, i.e. the ones with💰 and shouldn't we be calling the shots?

At least some strings attached - like PA/PLA cant have what we buy etc.
IG we could negotiate over PA not getting stuff, but hard to stop PLA.... They buy a ton from russians too.

Stuff PA gets from PLA is shit, their s300 copy isnt even akash level to be honest.
 

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IG we could negotiate over PA not getting stuff, but hard to stop PLA.... They buy a ton from russians too.

Stuff PA gets from PLA is shit, their s300 copy isnt even akash level to be honest.
But somewhere in the back of their mind Ruskis do fear the PLA. They are not stupid by stretch of imagination. We should be able to play on that fear and extract concessions.
 

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But somewhere in the back of their mind Ruskis do fear the PLA. They are not stupid by stretch of imagination. We should be able to play on that fear and extract concessions.
Putin knows that China wants Siberia. Why do you think he always pulls us into everything? He was the principal proponent of pulling us into the SCO because China was sidelining Russia. Also, Pakistan without India in SCO would have made Russia's bargaining power weak.

I am pretty sure that the S-500 he plans to sell the PLA will be having some caveats they won't tell about. The last thing he'd want is PLAAFAD shooting Russian fighter jets using S-500s.
 

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Putin knows that China wants Siberia. Why do you think he always pulls us into everything? He was the principal proponent of pulling us into the SCO because China was sidelining Russia. Also, Pakistan without India in SCO would have made Russia's bargaining power weak.

I am pretty sure that the S-500 he plans to sell the PLA will be having some caveats they won't tell about. The last thing he'd want is PLAAFAD shooting Russian fighter jets using S-500s.
Maybe so, but at some point he will end up giving CCP/PLA the stick to beat him up with. Not even India can help him at that time.
 

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Maybe so, but at some point he will end up giving CCP/PLA the stick to beat him up with. Not even India can help him at that time.
Russians are not dumb. They have been playing geopolitics for much longer than Xinnie the Poop came to power. Putin knows that Russia is the dessert after Taiwan and (apparently) us. He also knows that the CCP wants to annex territories till the Caspian shores.

The one thing he would do to keep China in check (while retaining their support against US+NATO), is to give us the full-powered versions of S-500 or any other weapons we buy from them hereon, while giving them the not-so-capable version and feign ignorance when confronted.

Putin was serving the KGB when China double-crossed the USSR with USA, Saudis & Pakistanis. He takes USSR's dissolution very personally & naturally has a game plan. Don't discount the Ruskies yet.
 

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