India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Blue Water Navy]

No wonder why the Chinkis so lethal kung fu failed against our ironclad soldiers.

 

[WARREN SS]

No wonder why the Chinkis so lethal kung fu failed against our ironclad soldiers.

Well I don't Disrespect Kung Fu but After Cultural Revolution of Mao I don't think there Is Genuine grand master Left In China To practice Ancient Shaolin arts

 

[dumdumdum]

General 3 separate source confirmation I guess.

Keeping aside how it's a folly to believe anything Chinese govt sources say, we can't exactly give a clean chit to everything our govt says either, since we have had brilliant Govts like Congress who have lied to us for years, including some army personnel, e.g. Shukla.

Basing conclusions on satellite imagery is also tenuous since all the publicly available ones are apparently from a single source (that d-atis handle I think?)

It's very hard to find 3 point confirmation with the fog of war, so the whole exercise is futile tbh.

Thats why the trust hierarchy should be

- Army
- GOI
- Defense journalists who over the years have proven to be reliable
- Other Indian journalists
- Foreign Press
- Indian OSINT
- Non Indian OSINT
- Chinese Government
- CCP
- Chinese Media

UInless and until there are repeated instances of clear breach of trust by higher levels in this hierarchy, in fog of war & social media disinformation campaigns.
Yet again and again ..we get carried away by what people in the bottom of this hierarchy

 

[Kalki2020]

Guys any war with China is meaningless until it includes recreation of buffer states of Tibet and East Turkestan. Otherwise we are just wasting lives and resources with no gain.

If India is attacked then India must defend itself. But unnecessary bloodshed has no benefit.

Signs of weakness... For buffer zone you don't need to fight full fledged war, keep up the flame of war alive that China also feel the heat if things go really hot in SCS.

A limited war with China is in the interest of India, psychological blackmailing will be over, Babudom will also come out of paranoid of Chinese might & so will be the masses. And offcourse armed forces will get required stuffs speedily which are otherwise will vacillate in the form of files between chambers of south block for years.

 

[Belagutti]

Why is oli wearing Gloves ?

 

[Sanglamorre]

Well I don't Disrespect Kung Fu but After Cultural Revolution of Mao I don't think there Is Genuine grand master Left In China To practice Ancient Shaolin arts

Ah, this isn't what happened. Basically, China promoted Kung Fu as some super duper art and, it became some sort of nationalist fervour. Like, Kung Fu can't lose, it's #1, Chyna best that sort of thing. Eventually, many people started to make fake claims that they are masters of Kung Fu. The traditional schools couldn't call them out since it's a nationalist thing now and well, if they say Kung Fu is ancient but that didn't mean it's best, the CCP would take their heads.

So the claims kept getting taller and taller. Fake MMA people were hired by these fake masters to act like their Kung Fu completely beat them. This fuelled more Nationalist fervour. Then, one such master had the bright idea to challenge an actual MMA fighter in China. Got beaten within 12 seconds.

This went viral and CCP got mad. Because to them, it showed Western martial arts beat Chinese ones. That MMA fighter was ostracised and pressured, bullied. But more such incidents happened. Now CCP trying to rebrand it as fake masters being exposed instead of admitting Kung Fu is well, not as good as modern martial arts.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Lol ! calm yourself down. Fighting a war unprepared will result in another 1962 and there is no point in fighting wars if you don't gain anything strategic. Plus to capture Tibet we would first need to create internal uprisings which can only be done by Dalai Lama. So, we need to start from there. If Dalai Lama dies without a successor you can say goodbye to any dreams for Tibet, and start worrying about Ladhak, Arunachal and other places with Tibetan refugees since China has already plans with reincarnations of new Lama.

There is already a successor and he is Chinese Kathputli I guess.

If the In Gov is serious they should have made Dalai Lama declare someone loyal to him as his successor who will keep Tibet independence fight on.

Once that is done an embassy for Tibet and a President House must be provided rest Diplomacy will take care.

 

[Kumata]

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Why is oli wearing Gloves ?

Chinese virus...

 

[Belagutti]

Chinese virus...

No Mask .

 

[Kumata]

No Mask .

he straightway need to get out and get his fix from chinese ambassador.. Mask is a hindrance.. but still he is observing social distancing from others...

 

[Bhadra]

Why google earth interpretation of LAC cant be trusted completely
I was reading about the defeat of 7th Infantry Brigade at Namka Chu @ Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh in 1962.

Currently the Indian Army seems to occupy Hathung La Ridge(Light brown line) while Chinese hold Thagla Ridge (Red line).

But as you can see Google Earth lays the boundary in a way that Indian Posts are shown to be in Chinese held territory
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Actually McMahon marked the line on a large scale map and one can imagine the cartography of 1905. But in principle he tried to marks the line following watershed.
In Twang sector which happens to be the end point where the line finishes the line somehow became straight.
Indian post in in Hathungla are actually above that line line but watershed is Thagla Ridge. Indians are holding Hathungla because it falls in line with a border post called Khinjemane on Namkhachu that was accepted by the Chinese as border between India and China.

 

[Sanglamorre]

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Why is oli wearing Gloves ?

Going spelunking in cave Yanqi but afraid of leaving traces behind.

 

[Kumata]

Abhishek manu will get spanking from queen bee shortly... Keep a eye.. poor Sanjay jha is begging channels to invite him for evening shows these days...

 

[Kalki2020]

Xi is also involved. But Chinese were there to fight you were not.

Indians will fight when needed, we all know loopholes in our entire war fighting capabilities which will be plugged with the support of gov. We also know surrendering attitude of our Babudom.
But army never disappointed once armed properly be it 1971 or 1967or even 1999 unlike the salwar army whose reputation is built upon, surrendering en masse & carpet bombing on own citizens.

So have patience, military actions are not to assuage your urge for war.
It will happen once it is planned.

 

[Bhadra]

Rahiman is a disaster, which happens for a few days. No interest or interest in the world


Bad translation.

Rahim says a short lived crisis is a test bed as it exposes people near you into your well wishers and those who wish you ill.

Context - Indian crisis has exposed ill wishers of the nation like Shukla.

 

[Bhadra]

Indian TV Chanels banned in Nepal ???

 

[Belagutti]

Indian TV Chanels banned in Nepal ???

Yes similar to the Maldives

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

I want R&AW doing zalzala in chini heartland of ccp

Can I see that day in near future

 

[Tanmay]

Actually McMahon marked the line on a large scale map and one can imagine the cartography of 1905. But in principle he tried to marks the line following watershed.
In Twang sector which happens to be the end point where the line finishes the line somehow became straight.
Indian post in in Hathungla are actually above that line line but watershed is Thagla Ridge. Indians are holding Hathungla because it falls in line with a border post called Khinjemane on Namkhachu that was accepted by the Chinese as border between India and China.

Indeed, I read about the battle and the reason behind it. I understand that the 'map' according to the MacMahon line says that Thagla was in Chinese territory. But the general principle stated that watershed line was to be followed.
Orders came late, Chinese preempted us in occupying ThagLa and 7 Infantry Brigade was annhilated as it was caught in a killing bowl of Namka Chu valley and Brig. Dalwi was taken PoW ening the story.

 

[Tanmay]

he straightway need to get out and get his fix from chinese ambassador.. Mask is a hindrance.. but still he is observing social distancing from others...

Whats the use of wearing gloves if he's still touching his facec ! Lol. He will get infected anyways