India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[mokoman]

Very big deal . China trying to turn Iran into their Israel . Beginning steps for WW3
If this deal goes through , any attack by US/Israel on Iran will be impossible .

China Inks Military Deal With Iran Under Secretive 25-Year Plan | OilPrice.com

China and Iran are adding a crucial military element to an existing and highly secretive 25-year strategic deal that includes oil & gas, infrastructure and strategic military cooperation

oilprice.com

China will invest US$280 billion in developing Iran’s oil, gas, and petrochemicals sectors.

There will be another US$120 billion of investment, which again can be front-loaded into the first five-year period, for upgrading Iran’s transport and manufacturing infrastructure

Sino-Russian bombers, fighters, and transport planes will have unrestricted access to Iranian air bases,

These deployments will be accompanied by the roll-out of Chinese and Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities, according to the Iran sources. This would encompass each of the three key EW areas - electronic support (including early warning of enemy weapons use) plus electronic attack (including jamming systems) plus electronic protection (including of enemy jamming). Based originally around neutralising NATO’s C4ISR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance) systems, part of the new roll-out of software and hardware from China and Russia in Iran,according to the Iran sources, would be the Russian S-400 anti-missile air defence system:

 

[utubekhiladi]

This letter could be simply trolling , anyone can take a printout and sign it.

Demolition of all bridges along Jelhem

Are we going to take POK ??

i was thinking the same thing, why would they plan to blow up the bridge? is this memo authentic?

 

[Rudra7678]

This letter could be simply trolling , anyone can take a printout and sign it.

Demolition of all bridges along Jelhem

Are we going to take POK ??

I am more interested in the news telecast that says, Sindhi soldiers and officers have refused to fight for Pakistani Army and that Sindhi army officers in PoK have gone on leave.

 

[Tuco]

i was thinking the same thing, why would they plan to blow up the bridge? is this memo authentic?

We will come me to know if the bridge is blown. But I think it's fake.

 

[Kalki2020]

This is no de-escalation but disengagement. Indian troops will return to PP-14 after some days. Can't have two armies that have recently lost men almost face to face staring at each other. Trust is at an all time low and tensions are high, even a small incident could lead to a firefight. Disengagement is being done so that heads can cool down at the border while de-escalation talks continue. De-escalation will happen only when all the heavy firepower and additional troops brought by both countries will move back.

Prithviraj syndrome stinging again & again ...

 

[mokoman]

We will come me to know if the bridge is blown. But I think it's fake.

In case of an invasion , They will blow up the bridges to slow our advance .

Its probably fake .

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Harward has published a 70 page report on comparative strength of India and China. In that report, they say that 2.25 lakh Indian soldiers are ready to take on china, 3000 soldiers are ready with tanks, 1000 soldiers are ready with 100 Brahmos missile in Arunachal parades. India has deployed its air force in advance landing ground. India 's Sukhois and Mirage are fully capable of take off from that terrain.

On the other hand, china has its to pull its forces from Xinjiang and Tibet which is not desirable or easy for China. Above 1000 chinese missiles are not good enough to damage India decisively. High chinese airfields are not suitable for most of Chinese planes except J10. India can deliver decisive blow to China in case of conflict in Laddakh.

Link pls

 

[Raj Malhotra]

My views about Chinese Step by Step approach to become sole Global power.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

I fail to understand why there is so much unnecessary discussion leading to more confusion without knowing the full facts of the area we are dealing with.

PP 14 (Patrolling Point 14) is a place on the ground (this one marked by stones put there to iden the point) where patrols from both India and China patrol up to. This PP belongs to neither India nor China. It's like a no man's point but troops from both sides patrol up to. This one is bang on the LAC. There is no permanent structure constructed at any of the PPs in this area. According to the de-escalation agreement, both sides are to withdraw from this point (PP 14) and and not patrol there for the next 30 days until de-escalation is complete. Here's the map....

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So I can't understand why the confusion? Both sides have withdrawn into their respective areas.

They are confused because they read mostly Pakistani media and their propaganda on their defense forum and they believe it.
Porkis are biggest loser here than China. They lose their frills and fringes down of cheerleading.

 

[scatterStorm]

USN has them by their balls in SCS. 11's original plan was limited war with India to distract international attention, and make a move on Taiwan. CIA decoded this in time, and has half the US Navy fleet in SCS (over 400 warplanes and 50+ warships). India mobilized 250,000+ troops faster than 11 anticipated, and hasn't stopped its 2-front preparation. He has no choice but to disengage with India to turn his attention to SCS.

India isn't leaving anything to chance, and has mobilized in all theaters, including Tawang. Xi will neither get the trophy nor a consolation prize.

the recent shift of its troop deployment is seen in accordance to the seventh fleet and two other CBGs in SCS. Wait for couple months and see situation to further escalate.

 

[Bhadra]

Better quality Full version .


They also made another one during doklam .

Best post of the thread...

 

[garg_bharat]

Better quality Full version .


They also made another one during doklam .

A clip made by India Today can be shown on Japanese TV. Or you think there is a ban?

Babaji did not say anything about who made the clip.

This is called a comprehension problem.

 

[ezsasa]

My views about Chinese Step by Step approach to become sole Global power.

Oh yes, agree with this.
already been done once during obama period, spotlight on russia after ex-russian spy was killed in U.K. it was a disproportionate response.

 

[Concard]

There is something odd I read in this thread from an article a user posted. @Abhijeet Dey Here is an excerpt from the article:

Iqbal Malhotra, author of Kashmir’s Untold Story: Declassified, says the manufacture of high-end microchips has been shifted to PoK in a massive Chinese-built underground factory away from prying satellite eyes; microchips run a wide range of electronics, aircraft, ships, satellites and more. In Kashgar, they have set up a poly silicon manufacturing plant to make the chips; one of the world’s largest

Have Chinese built an semiconductor fabrication facility in Pakistan occupied Kashmir? I read the same claim on Quora. I thought it was absurd. It looks like there is some truth to it. Although I wonder why of all places PoK? Is it because lack of water which is needed for the fab? What is happening here?

Then the article goes on to claim this

Malhotra says the Chinese have also built missile silos in PoK.

How true is this statement?

 

[Bhadra]

Can confirm this.. lots of jet chatter yesterday and today morning.. One went in urgency.. could not see the way since its raining with low clouds...

They are carrying out an air exercise in Ladakh including a Paradrop. I think they should carry out a lot of Para drops in Ladakh instead from Sarsawa..

 

[Bhadra]

where is pp15? could someone show me in a map

All PP have been discussed and shown on Maps and sketches so many times that those have rubbed off...

Saari raat Ramayana sunaya aur Sita kiska baap ??

 

[ezsasa]

All PP have been discussed and shown on Maps and sketches so many times that hose have ribbed off...
Saari raat Ramayana sunaya aur Sita kiska baap ??

disagree, everyone started with zero knowledge on the topic at some point in time. let's not be condescending when someone wants to update their knowledge base.

 

[garg_bharat]

Very big deal . China trying to turn Iran into their Israel . Beginning steps for WW3
If this deal goes through , any attack by US/Israel on Iran will be impossible .

China Inks Military Deal With Iran Under Secretive 25-Year Plan | OilPrice.com

China and Iran are adding a crucial military element to an existing and highly secretive 25-year strategic deal that includes oil & gas, infrastructure and strategic military cooperation

oilprice.com

China will invest US$280 billion in developing Iran’s oil, gas, and petrochemicals sectors.

There will be another US$120 billion of investment, which again can be front-loaded into the first five-year period, for upgrading Iran’s transport and manufacturing infrastructure

Sino-Russian bombers, fighters, and transport planes will have unrestricted access to Iranian air bases,

These deployments will be accompanied by the roll-out of Chinese and Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities, according to the Iran sources. This would encompass each of the three key EW areas - electronic support (including early warning of enemy weapons use) plus electronic attack (including jamming systems) plus electronic protection (including of enemy jamming). Based originally around neutralising NATO’s C4ISR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance) systems, part of the new roll-out of software and hardware from China and Russia in Iran,according to the Iran sources, would be the Russian S-400 anti-missile air defence system:

Yes Iran is key to China Russia axis. This axis extends to Iraq and Syria and then to Egypt and Libya. Almost continuous land mass.

This axis is a grave threat to Israel.

 

[johnq]

Apart from distraction, the "disengagement" might also be because the princes of China are afraid of catching Covid from Indian soldiers, and if so, this can be used against them elsewhere.

 

[scatterStorm]

China learns lessons from Doklam, changes logistics & supply systems in Tibet

The PLA is now trying to modernise its theatre-level distribution and integrate it with the supply chain. On-ground trials have been conducted

theprint.in

They have been building supply,ammo depots in Tibet.

They also have road rail networks that can replenish stocks .

They are masters of construction . They will probably build more airports , bases . Blast proof bunkers all over the place .

They also mining gold near Tibet and near AP.