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ezsasa

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Pompeo is going on a different gear altogether..
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I'm announcing visa restrictions on PRC govt&Chinese Communist Party officials determined to be “substantially involved in formulation or execution of policies related to access for foreigners to Tibetan areas,” pursuant to Reciprocal Access to Tibet Act of 2018:US Secy of State

Access to Tibetan areas is increasingly vital to regional stability, given the PRC’s human rights abuses there, as well as Beijing’s failure to prevent environmental degradation near the headwaters of Asia’s major rivers: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

 
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Galwan Valley is an ingress waypoint for Chinese cruise missiles, and they don't want Indian soldiers at point 14 because they can shoot down incoming cruise missiles in the valley itself.
Are Baba. Baba re Baba... strait science fictions ... that movie "Stealth" type.
Imagine Chinese cruise missile using TERCOM flying through a valley where the width ranges between 400 and 40 meters with so numerious sharp turns and bends ... real stuff...

You are on real Manali grass ....:doh:
 

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true, our IA is always at war 24x7x356.
Kashmir made us that way. the tough terrain made us strong.
Kashmir is a passe now and gone are the days of those lanky Afganis and Pashtuns boys as Punjabis have made Kashmir as employment opportunity...

Real ones that hardened Indian soldiers were / are in Nagaland . Manipur. Mizoram and Punjab... real hardcore rural sturdy folks...tough nuts to crack.

Then came the LTTE Tambis in Srilanka... I must admit the Madras Regiment and Madras Sapper NCO / JCO really trained them very hard and R&AW deployed some good military talent to orchestrate their War. Srilankan Army would have nightmare hearing their name. Then they shattered the North Indian dominated military mindset into pieces until the military brass recovered and then spanked them into Vanni jungles.
Indian Army is fighting against terain blues no Army in the world is doing... so much of High Altitude cold climate, Siachin. DBO. North Sikkim. High Altitude desrts of Ladakh. thick forest of Northeasts and India Myanmar border areas, Riverines plains of Jammu, Punjab and Bangladesh borders, rolling hills south of Pir Punjal. deserts of Thar and Runs of Kucch...

No Army in the world is so fortunate that mere one tenure of two years in any of those terrains is good enough to gray you...
In spite of our conservative and reactionary MoD and MEA. the UN tenure for Army units and officers is one of the best eye opener as the officers and boys see soldiers of about five - six countries around them and compare their standards. The pride and satisfaction on their faces is immense. Of late. joint training with foreign armies also provide this opportunity. When a sturdy khalsa touches and feels the soft girlie looking Chinese soldier . the sense of amusement on his face is worth thousands of dollars..
 

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Pompeo is going on a different gear altogether..
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I'm announcing visa restrictions on PRC govt&Chinese Communist Party officials determined to be “substantially involved in formulation or execution of policies related to access for foreigners to Tibetan areas,” pursuant to Reciprocal Access to Tibet Act of 2018:US Secy of State

Access to Tibetan areas is increasingly vital to regional stability, given the PRC’s human rights abuses there, as well as Beijing’s failure to prevent environmental degradation near the headwaters of Asia’s major rivers: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

Finally as I predicted, Tibet will become an issue.

China has to be rolled back for world peace.
 

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India-China LAC row: Buffer zones to be set up at
two friction points

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Important Points that emerge.

* Buffer zones are temporary meant only for the period of Disentanglement.
“mutual temporary arrangement” to ensure there were “no
inadvertent clashes” between the rival troops during the disengagement.
* Size of buffer zone will depend on each place.
* Buffer zones thus created will have no consequences for the question of LAC.
* After Disengagement patrolling to resume up to each sides perception of LAC as hithertofore. We have not relinquished our right to patrol till there,”
 

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I sense hectic activity behind the scenes. Various scenarios are being discussed and 'gamed'. There will be progressive cutting off of China from West dominated financial systems. The undue power gained by China from international trade will be checked.
 

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Chinese telecom equipment is extremely dangerous. I am certain that money spent on Chinese equipment will go waste and the equipment will have to be removed or switched off. People do not understand basic facts - that routers can be programmed remotely. The very presence of Chinese telecoms in India gives China huge potential power over our infrastructure.

I do not know what is wrong with our government to allow a hostile country to build critical infra.
 

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Their pullback is "sudden and complete" because they want to get India to un-ban TikTok before the US and EU can try to ban it. Right now a market the size of India banning it makes TikTok's position in the west untenable.

TikTok is the only successful chicom SM platform (data source) that has managed high market penetration outside China.

A ban in India will inevitably lead to a ban in the US and EU, and that would be an incalculable strategic loss to China, more so because no future Chinese SM or IoT platform will be trusted in the west or India (that's 3/4th of China's data industry TAM).

This is why Ambani said "data is the new oil." India is the Saudi Arabia of data.
 

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The military situation is unlikely to improve. I think Chinese are just observing our tactics and refining their own. There is nothing more to it. The small adjustment in positions is tactical.
 

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Chinese have a view that machines and numbers is key to military power. This is a wrong
view it is men and training that make military power first. Machines do not win wars men do.
Though they have absolute greater numbers in weapons what they can deploy in Tibet is limited. Their reinforcements have to come from hundreds to thousand kilometres away and the supply lines can be destroyed by us.

The PLA badly needs a reminder of our fighting strength.
 

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Perhaps, xi wants to project himself as a great leader to impress chinese people. It is his compulsion in wake of his fading influence. In countries like China and Pakistan, some times domestic compulsion decides country's foreign policies. While we try to analyze the foreign relations of some country , rogue countries in particular, the domestic angle must also be taken into account. I would like to remind you guys an incident. Benazir Bhutto wanted a conflict with India to save her chair.
Well as far as India is concerned Xi will realise that he has bitten off more than he can chew.
 

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in the near future, our next generation will read something like this in their general knowledge book.
1. Name that one country which goes around the world issuing warnings to every other nations?
:lawl::lawl:
My add...

2. Name that one country which first make tents in others area but when fed with BIG Golgappa's pack their tents and run away like cowards with their tail between legs?
3. Name that country which doesn't even accept death of even 1 soldier? PS: No it's not Pakistan since they still accept ~10% dead. :rofl:
4. Name that ancient civilization whose biggest "invention" caused 500,000* death worldwide and $ Trillions lost?
5. ....... to be continued.

INDIA TV is reporting that chinese have also begin to withdraw from finger 4 at pangong tso lake
:scared2::scared2:
what kind of treachery trickery is this? :notsure:
Chinese really got irritated by the constant "Des-esclation ho gaya kya? x 1,000,000,000" rants of one respected DFI member and finally decided to de-escalate for a while. :troll:
 

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My add...

2. Name that one country which first make tents in others area but when fed with BIG Golgappa's pack their tents and run away like cowards with their tail between legs?
3. Name that country which doesn't even accept death of even 1 soldier? PS: No it's not Pakistan since they still accept ~10% dead. :rofl:
4. Name that ancient civilization whose biggest "invention" caused 500,000* death worldwide and $ Trillions lost?
5. ....... to be continued.



Chinese really got irritated by the constant "Des-esclation ho gaya kya? x 1,000,000,000" rants of one respected DFI member and finally decided to de-escalate for a while. :troll:
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:So true
 

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There is a difference : CCP won't care how many Afghans will die if they enter however evil USA may be they do care a bit about their image.
CCP definitely care about their image
Why do you think they are acting as retards worldwide?
Because their image has taken a huge dip worldwide due to virus
 
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