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Some how need to make sure to either not antagonize Russia, or make sure they remain neutral.
Russia became a football because of US politics after Trump's election. Meanwhile China the real threat was quietly biding it's time. Now the Chinese threat is out in the open. India is relatively powerless in this respect. The best thing will be if the Russians keep their mouth shut in any US-China confrontation. India really has to do nothing. I think the Russians are also smart enough to realize that Indian actions moving closer to the US are because of the threat from China and not because India wants to get away from Russia.
 

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Russia became a football because of US politics after Trump's election. Meanwhile China the real threat was quietly biding it's time. Now the Chinese threat is out in the open. India is relatively powerless in this respect. The best thing will be if the Russians keep their mouth shut in any US-China confrontation. India really has to do nothing. I think the Russians are also smart enough to realize that Indian actions moving closer to the US are because of the threat from China and not because India wants to get away from Russia.
Besides, China claiming Russian territory may not sit well with Russians.
 

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it is great company but all are under US nuke umbrella and none have declared nukes. While China ally Pakistan was given nukes by China to use on India . A big sticky point.
Yup, but I also feel Israel will be crucial here.
 

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Coupta trying hard to build false equivalence between India & pak/China. Looks like durbari got worried if india will use this as an opportunity to take back akhand Bharat..

Loser's mindset. Pak & Cheen have nukes so it's impossible to take back illegally occupied land. Let's roll over and lick the boots of the powerful nations! Remember: AUKAAT!
 

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I don't think china is that fool,they are numero uno chalu,they will crawl back to their cave once it rises above their calibur,sissy panty men are actually weighing the responce from their adversaries and will prepare as per it next time,but they should know others will not sit idle either,defence budgets will rise,awareness regarding cheene relationship ship will rise and these will further add to their misery
Sissy panty men don't have courage to take it on face ,they will somehow look for that opportunity to caught opponents napping,this is where we need to be careful
True event happed in Korean war.

Gen. McAuthor when asked about "do the Chinese would help N.Koreans if us navy enters the waters?". To which McAuthor replied to his fellow from Washington. No they wont.

Post 48hrs, USN enters Korean waters to split supply lines of N.Korea at the middle, Chinese troops enter N.K mountains.

McAuthor never wanted to split the country's in half, by creating a DMZ. He was always wanted full victory. A full Korean peninsula.

But higher powers at play never wanted that, he was asked to stop the further invasion, meaning it would become a cause for future wars so that they keep milking from S.Korea and Japan to sell them weapons and continue churning the military industrial complex.

Unfortunately, we might be there next milking cows unless we be decide to take Chinese steps seriously to grow our own industrial prowess.
 

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We will need them for weaponry but doubtful they will be more directly involved unless Iran heats up
Even they will be involved remember how they treat the oriental Jews in china is 10,000 jews in China can't even open synagogue in china's
 

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True event happed in Korean war.

Gen. McAuthor when asked about "do the Chinese would help N.Koreans if us navy enters the waters?". To which McAuthor replied to his fellow from Washington. No they wont.

Post 48hrs, USN enters Korean waters to split supply lines of N.Korea at the middle, Chinese troops enter N.K mountains.

McAuthor never wanted to split the country's in half, by creating a DMZ. He was always wanted full victory. A full Korean peninsula.

But higher powers at play never wanted that, he was asked to stop the further invasion, meaning it would become a cause for future wars so that they keep milking from S.Korea and Japan to sell them weapons and continue churning the military industrial complex.

Unfortunately, we might be there next milking cows unless we be decide to take Chinese steps seriously to grow our own industrial prowess.
That is exactly my point, and thankfully we are realizing that, with involving private players.
 

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See with private players comes Money and accountability, which both hal and drdo were lacking, hopefully things will become steady from now on.
 

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China is a big trading partner so they overlook things like that
But they could provide Intel's they have a large network chins to counter and survelliance the chinese supply over to Arab countries could be useful to get information about chinese supply of weapons to borders and to paki's
 

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Besides, China claiming Russian territory may not sit well with Russians.
Very true. In the short term the Russians view the India relationship as a lucrative market for their arms. They do not want India's US relationship to cut into this profitable business. That is their real concern. But they have to understand India's security concerns. Selling the same products to China and India is not in India's favor because of the Chinese habit of buying 1 item from Russia and then making 5-10 Chinese copies of it. The net result will be that China will always have a numerical advantage of the same weapon system vs India. And that is why India needs western arms i.e. fighters, AAMs etc. which are superior to the Russian equipment supplied to China. And this should be viewed as India defending it's security interests. Ideally India should have it's own consumables for 100% of its requirements i.e. AAMs, artillery shells etc., but the dismal state of the defence PSUs and OFBs precludes that option.
 

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You can hate or like it is your choice but USA is a super power indeed not a paper tiger like China ,they have the big heart to absorb the shock of loss of life of there soldiers ,they have earned that name and might ,they put huge resources in building and sustaining that hegemony since WW2 ,they are the most prepared nation for any kind of military conflict around the globe which other nation has that capability and resource.this is a fact that nations get close or got separated according to their nation's interest and there is no wrong in this ,so if USA want to shake hand with India let's do that on our own terms ,no harm in doing that but do not take it as it is for eternity who knows what lies in the future except the almighty .so think about the present and go along where our interest takes us as a whole country.
 
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