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China has demarcated boundary with 12 of its 14 neighboring countries through peaceful negotiations,turning land borders into friendly cooperation bonds. It's groundless to view China as expansionist,exaggerate&fabricate its disputes with neighbours: Spox,
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This is what the Chinese say? Really?

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Don’t worry too much, most defence journalists have an understanding with the government/forces on what they can and cannot mention. Even now, there are many stories that aren’t being told, many actions and activities that don’t get spoken off in spite of being in partial knowledge of some journalists. Defence journalists are among the most careful with what they report because without access they are pretty much done for. Here I’m not referring to the politically involved commentary by some so called journalists, the rest of them are careful for the most part.
Like Barkah Dutt, Ajay Shukla, Parveen Sawhney ... ???
 

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A birdie told me their Su-35's barely fly so we can discount about 70% of their fleet.

Their Su-30's, Su-27s and copies of the same would pose some threat if any, followed by J-10 swarms.

The AL-31 air frames are more airworthy than those powered by Shenyang WS-10B. Once they start doing serious CAPS over their airspace and SCS, you will see them dropping off the sky like flies. That is how good they are.

The J-15 is pretty much canned and I doubt any of them will take off unless they are the last air worthy planes left in their entire inventory.

In a one to one contest, we are at best looking at 60-70% of PLAAF fleet at best 3rd Gen++ if we last the initial days.

Most PLAAF copies of Su series have very serious problems with their FBW besides having engine trouble with the WS engines. Serious air action will definitely test them.

If the PAF joins the circus then we may have our hands full else its an even contest.
 
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But the J 11 BG's were deployed to the Tibet's along with some MKK's at UAR's
There are a lot of unknowns with this plane one is payload, second will be mid air refuelling
third will be operating in that altitude
and temperature. Chinese don't release any information
about their planes so pakis and other trolls hype the planes to a level of alien starships.
 

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If the PAF joins the circus then we may have our hands full else its an even contest.
The PAF is barred from using American F-16s against India as per the end user agreement. They got a huge rap on the knuckles last year when they used it against India (but lied that they didn't'). So we are up against their JF-17 Thunder Blunder which is as potent as a guy with erectile dysfunction, and a few antique Mirages only.
 
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There are a lot of unknowns with this plane one is payload, second will be mid air refuelling
third will be operating in that altitude
and temperature. Chinese don't release any information
about their planes so pakis and other trolls hype the plane to a level of alien starships.
The J 11 BG's is off different breed it is the aircraft that won against the J 20's single handed it according to rumors are fitted with foreign origins equipments with probably the isreali delivered covertly so if it's true then it is equal to the MKI's just it has an AESA Radar of Uknown origin's probably of the Israeli's and the information about it's is scare but they only have 24 of them
 

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A friendly reminder to active users.

Now that things might be settling down, its time for the Wikipedia war. Most of the people when trying to gather knowledge look up to Wikipedia than random news articles, hence the Wikipedia narrative of Indo-China standoff and how we broke Chinese necks must be maintained.

Unlike last time in Balakot, western media, as well as OSINT, was against us, hence we were not able to establish the truth owing to so-called "independent" western media shamelessly propagating Pakistani narrative.
This time, western media is with us as well as the narrative, so it won't be hard.

Beware, Chinese and their beloved pet Pakistanis are notorious in this and work overtime to change Wikipedia articles in their favor.
 

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The PAF is barred from using American F-16s against India as per the end user agreement. They got a huge rap on the knuckles last year when they used it against India (but lied that they didn't'). So we are up against their JF-17 Thunder Blunder and antique Mirages only.
How will US prevent Pakistan from using their F-16's?

Even if caught pants down, how will they punish Pakistan?

No country will respect EULA especially w.r.t weapons that are meant for defence and offence. Definitely not Pakistan.
 

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A friendly reminder to active users.

Now that things might be settling down, its time for the Wikipedia war. Most of the people when trying to gather knowledge look up to Wikipedia than random news articles, hence the Wikipedia narrative of Indo-China standoff and how we broke Chinese necks must be maintained.

Unlike last time in Balakot, western media, as well as OSINT, was against us, hence we were not able to establish the truth owing to so-called "independent" western media shamelessly propagating Pakistani narrative.
This time, western media is with us as well as the narrative, so it won't be hard.

Beware, Chinese and their beloved pet Pakistanis are notorious in this and work overtime to change Wikipedia articles in their favor.
Dont worry why fear when I am there
 

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i have one question... How credible is parveen sawhney?.......his analysis paints really gloomy picture with regard to china and pakistan.??
Only credible threats from china is their rocket force and their strong economy that can sustain war.

Rest PLAAF and PLAN are at geographical disadvantage, PLAGF is evenly matched by IA. Had it been a walkover for china, they won't be sitting on LAC twiddling their thumbs.
 
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