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Occam’s razor.

for me the simplest answer is pace of BRO’s infra construction in the area.

Chinese virus has nothing to do with this.

if I was PLA, I would also be alarmed if the opponents who used to take days on foot to patrol the are are now coming up to patrol on vehicles within hours.
Will have to agree with this.
I have explained before china is forever paranoid regarding it's control on tibet because tibet can never be fully secured by china.

It's too far from chinese mainland with supply lines running 1500-2000km long over barren harsh frozen terrain.

And a powerful India will always be able to cut those lines and assert power over tibet .

The only solution for chinese is that India remains passive towards tibet.
So it tries to intimidate by aggressive posturing form time to time and it tries to prop up pakistan to keep India engaged in western border.

But modi called Chinese bluff in doklam and paki gamble has failed with Pakistani economic collapse.

So now frustrated Chinese are trying to stop the Indian infra buildup as a last resort.
 

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Will have to agree with this.
I have explained before china is forever paranoid regarding it's control on tibet because tibet can never be fully secured by china.

It's too far from chinese mainland with supply lines running 1500-2000km long over barren harsh frozen terrain.

And a powerful India will always be able to cut those lines and assert power over tibet .

The only solution for chinese is that India remains passive towards tibet.
So it tries to intimidate by aggressive posturing form time to time and it tries to prop up pakistan to keep India engaged in western border.

But modi called Chinese bluff in doklam and paki gamble has failed with Pakistani economic collapse.

So now frustrated Chinese are trying to stop the Indian infra buildup as a last resort.
and now only thing indian security establishment needs to do now is not giving away any concessions during the ongoing negotiations.

construction is happening inside LAC on Indian territory.

as long as construction continues and projects are completed, it is a win for India.
 

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Will have to agree with this.
I have explained before china is forever paranoid regarding it's control on tibet because tibet can never be fully secured by china.

It's too far from chinese mainland with supply lines running 1500-2000km long over barren harsh frozen terrain.

And a powerful India will always be able to cut those lines and assert power over tibet .

The only solution for chinese is that India remains passive towards tibet.
So it tries to intimidate by aggressive posturing form time to time and it tries to prop up pakistan to keep India engaged in western border.

But modi called Chinese bluff in doklam and paki gamble has failed with Pakistani economic collapse.

So now frustrated Chinese are trying to stop the Indian infra buildup as a last resort.
But over the last years they are trying to move the local han Chinese to the tibet region, this is changing the Tibetan demographic. Because they know if an external invasion into tibet happens, Tibetans will see them as liberators.
 

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But over the last years they are trying to move the local han Chinese to the tibet region, this is changing the Tibetan demographic. Because they know if an external invasion into tibet happens, Tibetans will see them as liberators.
Local han aren't acclimated to tibet. It's a very tough life at those heights. Those Hans will be the first ones to run down hill as trouble beguns.
 

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But over the last years they are trying to move the local han Chinese to the tibet region, this is changing the Tibetan demographic. Because they know if an external invasion into tibet happens, Tibetans will see them as liberators.
Hans can be thrown out the same way they came in.

But all this talk is redundant. We neither have the strategy nor the resources to go deep into Tibet.
Maybe things are changing and we will change our stance from defending LAC to defending LAC and liberating Tibet.
The best defence is a good offence after all.
 

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Hans can be thrown out the same way they came in.

But all this talk is redundant. We neither have the strategy nor the resources to go deep into Tibet.
Maybe things are changing and we will change our stance from defending LAC to defending LAC and liberating Tibet.
The best defence is a good offence after all.
Wouldn't we need the same 10:1 force superiority to push into Tibet?
 

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India needs to revive QUAD and conduct joint patrol in SCS, even invite Vietnam to Malabar naval exercise, we need to take this game to their backyard. China does this aggression's to divert their local populations attention from what a clusterfuck response for pandemic.
Maybe India will do it. Actually everybody is thinking about their citizens now. Unlike those CCP f**kers.
 

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Red is our claim line, as is their in our official maps, China and PLA want us to shrink to blue line.
Why on earth are our leadership scared of PLA and are unable to kick them out of red area.
Show some spine and balls.

 

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India needs to revive QUAD and conduct joint patrol in SCS, even invite Vietnam to Malabar naval exercise, we need to take this game to their backyard. China does this aggression's to divert their local populations attention from what a clusterfuck response for pandemic.
QUAD is not a military grouping, EAM has made that very clear last year.
 

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Regarding both Tibet & Xinjiang India has to make a decision sooner rather than later because China has already declared that it will nominate next Dalai lama who will obviously toe the line & agree with Tibet being a part of China. Our policy needs to change quickly we have to adopt offensive strategies rather than being defensive all the time.
 
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Does arming our mountain strike core with large quantity of ATGM helps? A guerrillas warfare against there tanks and IED deployment like Baloch's did and Turkey's assault on Pantsirs using UCAV can help there?
Many countries will help India against China covertly and overtly. This will also cause a
shift in Indian policy into choosing alliances and throwing the neutral NAM BS in the
trash.
 

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No new dgp and chief secretary are appointed . But they are the same ias and ips which were serving the state cadre before.

Let me educate you
Every state has fixed number of ias and ips it gets from centre . This is called cadre.
When a state is divided it's cadre is also divided . That means no extra official are given from centre.

So it's the same number of bureaucrats as before just that two of them are now dg and Cs.

Furthermore small states have shown faster development as they are easier to govern and centre of power is much closer to people as compared to bigger state .

Uttarakhand , chattisgadh have done well by separating from parent states.

And in case of laddakh is was matter of national secure to separate it form Kashmir.
Are you trying to hoodwink me.. as the bureaucrats always do.
Is being a joint secretary and Chief secretary the same ...

What matters is the number of high grade appointments tenable by a cadre as compared to Cadre strength. Say

Say earlier the cadre strength of IAS for J&K was 100. Out of those hundred Super Scale posts were four which on Division rises to 12. Now you say nothing has happened? Career progression has increased threefold unless you are suggesting that a Director level officer will be Chief secretary of the new state. or a secretary MoD will be offset to cater for the new state.

So who has benefitted the most by the creation of a new UT or state? Thre is a new CM, New home Deptt, New Fiance depth, .... all will have Addl Secy level secy, there will be thus jump in higher posts...

That is how every IAS retires minimum as Secretary and every IPS retires minimum as a DG. They all have created inverted pyramids for themselves...
 
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