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The government of India must Fastrack the Bilaspur Manali Leh railway line. If this railway line gets completed then it would be easy for our army to transfer their logistics to the Tibet border. Bilaspur Manali Leh railway line must be the top priority for the government of India

excellent pick there.

I live some where on this route and trust me till 5 -6 years back, it used to take us 2 hours to do 40 kms.... post BJP govt, Army converted this to road of strategic imp and it was widened and double laned in a years time.... right now also, it's being used to move man / material...

As for railway line goes, Survey is complete and construction should start soon. More so since MOS in FM is the MP there... This is one of his pet promise to local populace...
 

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I completely agree with that. The Chinese have completely infiltrated the west through money. But for some reason I expected more from the current Indian political/military leadership.
here’s what the U.S National security advisor is saying
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"American policymakers were wrong to assume that as China developed... it would eventually democratize and pursue liberalization... We could not have been more wrong— and this miscalculation was the greatest failure of US foreign policy since the 1930s.”

 

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Indians are more resilient the people give us credit for. Despite leftist rule in multiple states Hindus didn't become atheist .
And tremendous support for modi in every situation like demonetization , balakot , rafale and Even now despite full blown propaganda from opposition shows that Indian aren't fooled easily anymore.

But bjp will have double down on progress and development even in stated as hindutva alone won't win votes.
History is testamount to the fact that wealth creation will not happen without security. Unless India takes its own security seriously, all big investors will shy away from India. Even Indian businessmen will run away.

Apple can do manufacturing in India but what is the stability of India long term for Apple to invest 10-20 billion dollars. Just think about it.
 

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History is testamount to the fact that wealth creation will not happen without security. Unless India takes its own security seriously, all big investors will shy away from India. Even Indian businessmen will run away.

Apple can do manufacturing in India but what is the stability of India long term for Apple to invest 10-20 billion dollars. Just think about it.
China is a threat for remote borders in laddkah and tawang. China is no threat for overall economy or population.
 

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No no, that's just a nostalgic area for me. It's like the entry point from plains towards mountains, a place for friends to go hangout in the evenings, that sort of thing. Fond memories.
Ah, I see, you are a man of culture as well !

Any chance you were in Binnaguri/Bengdubi area ?
 

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History is testamount to the fact that wealth creation will not happen without security. Unless India takes its own security seriously, all big investors will shy away from India. Even Indian businessmen will run away.
The situation in Ladakh does exactly naught in scaring away an American firm that has a manufacturing plant near Pune or Gujarat.

On the other hand, by failing to intimidate India in the military domain, and having suffered repeated failures in psychological/information warfare, China risks letting India teach China's neighbors how easy it is to stand up to Beijing.

Once this conflict dies down (either through a military engagement or a chicom pullback), India will become a bona fide power center in Asia. Our ambitions to become a counterweight to China will take flight.
 

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The situation in Ladakh does exactly naught in scaring away an American firm that has a manufacturing plant near Pune or Gujarat.

On the other hand, by failing to intimidate India in the military domain, and having suffered repeated failures in psychological/information warfare, China risks letting India teach China's neighbors how easy it is to stand up to Beijing.

Once this conflict dies down (either through a military engagement or a chicom pullback), India will become a bona fide power center in Asia. Our ambitions to become a counterweight to China will take flight.
I agree with the last para, but it is conditional to India being able to hold on its own vis a vis PLA and also subject to recovery of economy. What I like about the present standoff all policy makers will not dare to reduce defence budget🤣🤣
 

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The roots are spread too far and deep to uproot it at one go.

Leftists evoke empathy, compassion and emotional blackmail to brainwash everybody.
Easier to do so because Indians may be literate but aren't educated enough to understand their treachery.

Apne yahan kahawat hai - Communist aur saap, jidhar bhi mile, maar do. I know Communist replaced something very very inappropriate but that is how it remains ;-)
Bihar se ho kya bhai?
 

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China has nearly replaced every product on American shelves with Chinese made products.

India will also witness the exact same situation if we give Chinese a free pass.

China invests in building and cultivating an ecosystem from the Peon to the PMO and it will happily wait for 30 years before wresting control.

Indian traders+importers and Chinese manufacturers happily push finished goods into the country as scrap.

If you go to JC Road(automobile spares hub of Bangalore), you get Chinese tyres selling for half the rate of MRF or Michelin tyres. How do they manage to do that? They import it as scrap and circumvent all duty .
The containers are seldom inspected.

The containers currently stranded at Chennai port is a wake up call for both sides(Chinese and Indians) who have been running merry, greasing palms and flooding Indian markets with cheaper Chinese products. The Govt. knows whats happening but it doesn't act coz its not really high in their list of priorities.
The long term damage is permanent. MSMEs simply fold up with falling orders and the list of closed units is quite long.

If things go unchecked, even our underwear will be imported from China as Govt. increases Taxes, minimum wage, debilitating rules for businesses to even function within existing norms.
Worse, 14-16 hour power cuts which were common till NDA Govt was elected were so common across industrial hubs, MSMEs, textiles, manufacturers suffered immensely and simply could not fill the order book.
What happened next? Orders shifted to China.

It all starts with junk to test the consumers purchasing power and appetite to push for better quality. Then the flood gates open.
Tyre import is already ended. And we are not USA . Our industry is already beating china in two wheeler and pharmaceuticals.

14 % of our imports are from china we will decrease them under 10% pretty soon.
 

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Indian Navy should take precaution on the presence of Chinese submarines in the Indian Ocean

The underwater threat: The Chinese are coming!

The Chinese subs will be used against us if we blockade Malacca Strait . We are building operational capability to counter them .
 

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The way this discussion is going looks like it will be deescalation. Though the sensex is down for the second day today :crazy: :eek1::scared2:
 

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Our interests are not served by seeing our brethren oppressed. Pakistan is an artificial state while India is not. India (Bharat) is thousands of years old. There was no Pakistan before 1947.

It is not a question of Hindu Rashtra? It is a question of our values. A nation is defined by its values and ethos, not by boundaries.

All Sindhi Muslims are welcome in Bharat.
Sorry CAA does not allow it. May Allah bless Modi and Amit Shah for closing the loophole.
 
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