India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[utubekhiladi]

10/15 brigade ... 1 brigade 3k soldiers . thats a war level mobilization

yes, thats what i have been hearing on news and twitter. they are not here on a school picnic tour sightseeing. those batmunchers came with a plan and they are not going empty hand. because it will be insult to CCP and its prestige. MODI is not going to backdown and make compromises. so war is imminent.

 

[maximus777]

This is what Churchill must have felt in 1940 watching German troops massing on the French side of the Channel. Luckily for him Sea Lion never happened.

 

[Rakthabeeja]

Looking at the terrain, could we be intentionally abandoning this space since that river is behind us if chinese ever ambushed

Like I said defend where you can defend and attack where you can attack.

I don't think ghokale is lying when he said that We've built sangars but we built it on the other side of the river and he probably misheard or something

 

[Bhadra]

 

[fyodor]

I will still stand with my previous point.

We are likely going to see action in Gilgit Baltistan where India makes a move to capture more Paki territory. This will effectively cut the Cheenis down to their size.

 

[utubekhiladi]

I will still stand with my previous point.

We are likely going to see action in Gilgit Baltistan where India makes a move to capture more Paki territory. This will effectively cut the Cheenis down to their size.

i am betting, we will see action near despang plains..

 

[tarunraju]

and you have all three in one frame....
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Nutsac Jaafri phir chalu ho gaya? It's a goodluck charm.

 

[tarunraju]

Indian fighter jets have roared over a flashpoint Himalayan region as part of a show of strength even as China again accused India of provoking the border clash earlier this month

Indian jets fly over Galwan as China again blames India for clash

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They probably practiced a bombing run. Imagine the terror even two of these can spread in Galwan.

 

[asingh10_]

As one ex raw officer was mentioning on one of the news channels, they are probably trying to stretch / tire the Indian soldiers by opening multiple flash points (Ladakh, Sikkim, Nepal, Pakistan LOC etc) & will act when India is most vulnerable.


Watch the fires burning across the river[edit]

• (隔岸觀火／隔岸观火, Gé àn guān huǒ)
• Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in at full strength and pick up the pieces.

- 36 stratagems

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

As one ex raw officer was mentioning on one of the news channels, they are probably trying to stretch / tire the Indian soldiers by opening multiple flash points (Ladakh, Sikkim, Nepal, Pakistan LOC etc) & will act when India is most vulnerable.


Watch the fires burning across the river[edit]

• (隔岸觀火／隔岸观火, Gé àn guān huǒ)
• Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in at full strength and pick up the pieces.

- 36 stratagems

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nothing will happen at the border with the chinese. They will keep waiting for the right moment and we will retake PoK in the mean time.

 

[Bhadra]

Maybe so, but government still gives them contracts without even competing. Like in the case of AK203 which did no extensive trialing in LEH, etc. The Russians wanted to originally partner with the Adanis for the program as well.

This is a bone to to the Russian industry and to keep OFB hands moving. Effectively the Russians will be in Indian small arms business for 20+ years. OFB will be overlooking the quality and construction of most of Indian soldiers arms. If somehow the new factory pulls this off, great, but they have a track record.

If India pulls this BS with FICV, FRCV, etc. This will be a sin. Especially after current events.

There is also a issue of putting most of the future jet programs under HAL. This is also a recipe for disaster.

I love the SP and Make India why has nothing come of it? Why cant the gov and users freeze concepts that arent even revolutionary, but contemporary things need to move faster. India has the industry to produce a credible military industry and the players want to move, ask Baba, but they keep running into road blocks.

Imagine ATGS - a full four tons weight more than asked for... who hell is going to tow that up into Depsang, Chip Chap and Hot spring.

Ladakh has conclusively proved that India needs duel purpose equipment fit for plains as also mountains...

Why should Pakistan endanger its sovereignty by coming to plains of Punjab or Rajasthan.. gone are those days..

Now it is going to be Mech Division in Ladakh..

 

[Bhadra]

thats what i am trying to tell you.. pp14 is gone

Do not spread rumors that you are not sure about.. Chinese gone from there..

 

[tarunraju]

As one ex raw officer was mentioning on one of the news channels, they are probably trying to stretch / tire the Indian soldiers by opening multiple flash points (Ladakh, Sikkim, Nepal, Pakistan LOC etc) & will act when India is most vulnerable.


Watch the fires burning across the river[edit]

• (隔岸觀火／隔岸观火, Gé àn guān huǒ)
• Delay entering the field of battle until all the other players have become exhausted fighting amongst themselves. Then go in at full strength and pick up the pieces.

- 36 stratagems

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fight amongst ourselves? You expect Arundhati, Barkha [insert freshly menopaused bongo-bigmouth] on the frontlines anytime soon?

 

[Waanar]

It feels like all this Galwan fiasco was just foreplay and they actually want to secure OROB and rain hell on DBO. That would actually make tremendous sense compared to just opening up front after front when they and we both know that it'd be unsustainable for their already slow supply route and there is huge risk of their planned assaults going awry because of a push by Indian Military successfully breaking through at least one of them and start cruising in Tibet.

 

[asingh10_]

Fight amongst ourselves? You expect Arundhati, Barkha

Barkha's reckless reporting has caused casualties in Kargil & 26/11.

There are lot of other 5th columnists who are capable of creating internal problems in their capacity - what many defence analysts call the .5 front.

Anyhow, I wasn't referring to the .5 front in my original post but rather wanted to emphasize the bit about Indian forces being exhausted and stretched across the long border.

 

[Waanar]

Barkha's reckless reporting has caused casualties in Kargil & 26/11.

There are lot of other 5th columnists who are capable of creating internal problems in their capacity - what many defence analysts call the .5 front.

Anyhow, I wasn't referring to the .5 front in my original post but rather wanted to emphasize the bit about Indian forces being exhausted and stretched across the long border.

Exhaustion happens to assaulter far away from their mainland, not to the defender sitting right on top of his.
Let's not disregard the fact that PLA can never saturate that area with their entire military.
The Orange-man at the helm of the world's strongest military is not conducive to good health in that scenario.

 

[asingh10_]

Slightly off topic, but is the Gorkhaland movement an attempt to create China - Bangladesh corridor so that China has access to Bay of Bengal ? Apart from the fact that its also geo strategically sensitive region for us (chicken neck). Quite a lot of Nepalis (not Indian citizens) seem interested in what goes on in that part of India which shouldn't be any of their business. Church is also very active in this region.

 

[LondonParisTokyo]

It would be nice if they start emergency procurement of BPJ and helmets their are lots of player's in industry which can supply these quickly and under make in india.

To make things quickly, affordably, and with quality you need privitization!

 

[Bhadra]

yes, thats what i have been hearing on news and twitter. they are not here on a school picnic tour sightseeing. those batmunchers came with a plan and they are not going empty hand. because it will be insult to CCP and its prestige. MODI is not going to backdown and make compromises. so war is imminent.

Firstly it is pure exaggeration and a pure bull shit.
Even if China and has deployed 6 Mech Div and 4 Motorised Div plus two BDR Regts even than it does not make 10-12 infantry brigade strength. Infantry is what is going to matter here.

Indian side has two Divs (six Infantry brigades) on independent Infantry brigade, Nine ITBP Battalions, three Ladakh Scouts battalions. three rotating battalions, about three SFF battalions, one armoured brigade and one Armoured Regt - That makes it to 16 plus Brigades,,,

To attack three Infantry brigade defended positions on front even if we take low ratio of 1:9 against required ratio of 1:12. Chinese would need 27-30 brigades.

Teri kyon fat rahi hai aur forum men dar faila raha hai.....

 

[utubekhiladi]

Do not spread rumors that you are not sure about.. Chinese gone from there..

i disagree sirji, Chinese came back and fortified their strength with heavies.