India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[right wing]

Nepal and China are the same thing. Nepal is the newest province of China, so we don't need a separate thread.

They have compulsory Mandarin and you think we need a separate thread? Even Taiwan has a different writing system from mainland China, but not Nepal. We don't need a separate thread. Nepal is China.

Such readings of Nepal are deeply flawed.
PS I have no love lost for Nepalis,but yes they are far more closer to us than even the Bhutanese.
Over aggressiveness won't help here much.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Such readings of Nepal are deeply flawed.
PS I have no love lost for Nepalis,but yes they are far more closer to us than even the Bhutanese.
Over aggressiveness won't help here much.

As I said earlier, Ignoring them and not talking to them is the right way now, so that China does not get additional leverage.. and allow Oli to make mistakes

 

[Sanglamorre]

Such readings of Nepal are deeply flawed.
PS I have no love lost for Nepalis,but yes they are far more closer to us than even the Bhutanese.
Over aggressiveness won't help here much.

Brother, we don't need the Nepalis and Bhutanese to love us. We need them to fear us. You think Mexicans love USA? When a Country gathers a certain... heft, it has no "close" relation or alliances with countries far lower or above its stature. Occasional thumbing nose and odd statements are fine, but death of citizens and land is where we should draw the line.

These countries can't even fucking operate without using Indian currency in half their lands, time they are made to act like it.

 

[right wing]

As I said earlier, Ignoring them and not talking to them is the right way now, so that China does not get additional leverage.. and allow Oli to make mistakes

While hitting Oli gang silently like with the palm oil thing.

 

[right wing]

Come out of your imaginary mod job & just piss off.

Yeah yeah rant jacker..continue.

 

[Sanglamorre]

While hitting Oli gang silently like with the palm oil thing.

Nepal doesn't produce a drop of palm oil in the first place, and the ones taking advantage were exploiting the loophole of no taxes. Nepal Govt didn't exactly get taxes out of it iirc.

 

[right wing]

Brother, we don't need the Nepalis and Bhutanese to love us. We need them to fear us. You think Mexicans love USA? When a Country gathers a certain... heft, it has no "close" relation or alliances with countries far lower or above its stature. Occasional thumbing nose and odd statements are fine, but death of citizens and land is where we should draw the line.

These countries can't even fucking operate without using Indian currency in half their lands, time they are made to act like it.

Nepal is part of the same civilization as ours,to be honest it is an extension of our states.
Mexico is not that for USA.
When your long term goal is to induct Nepal as your country,overtly killing fellow dharmic folks to calm some communist twats doesn't help.
And there are ways of making the govt and its minions there understand Indian heft in far subtler ways.

 

[right wing]

Nepal doesn't produce a drop of palm oil in the first place, and the ones taking advantage were exploiting the loophole of no taxes. Nepal Govt didn't exactly get taxes out of it iirc.

The Nepali business community will force Oli to climb down for instance.
This is only one easy way of inspiring protests.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Brother, we don't need the Nepalis and Bhutanese to love us. We need them to fear us. You think Mexicans love USA? When a Country gathers a certain... heft, it has no "close" relation or alliances with countries far lower or above its stature. Occasional thumbing nose and odd statements are fine, but death of citizens and land is where we should draw the line.

These countries can't even fucking operate without using Indian currency in half their lands, time they are made to act like it.

We don't need to make them scared of india or anything like that till the time they don't cross the line.
Bhutan is truly friend of india. Congress government in some mid 2000s did some serious evil work to disturb relationship of india and bhutan but they failed to do that.
Bhutan is one of the biggest supporter of india.
So i don't agree with creating some type of fear there.
Bhutan local Buddhist people have seen what Chinese did with tibet that's why they stay away from cheen. And are happy with peaceful relationship with india.
Unlike nepal bhutan never used china card ta blackmail india.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Nepal is part of the same civilization as ours,to be honest it is an extension of our states.
Mexico is not that for USA.
When your long term goal is to induct Nepal as your country,overtly killing fellow dharmic folks to calm some communist twats doesn't help.
And there are ways of making the govt and its minions there understand Indian heft in far subtler ways.

You're still seeing the Hindu civilization dream. Our path has differed from Nepal. For one thing, you'll not assimilate Nepalese Hinduism with Indian. The kind of dream you're seeing requires a trans national religious identity which pre-Abrahamic religions simply don't possess.

If goal is to swallow Nepal, do it now before China strengthens it. If goal is to keep it Hindu, independent state, ram their political system and control it fully with force and finance. Whatever we are doing, is just stupid.

 

[rock127]

It will be a 5.5 front. Srilanka & bangladesh both will want a piece of us & you have over 50 years to go through your mandarin for dummies.

You forgot to add Maldives, Afganistan, Burma, Seychilles, Palau ............. and Islas Malvinas would love to get it's share as well. How much is that 255.5?

This thread is going berserk now!

 

[Niks_12]

Dang, this thread is in full meltdown. I just sifted through 5-6 pages filled with frustration, lols.

A couple of points:
- I also feel it’s not a good idea to take all the 3 on at the same time. The meddling from all 3 fronts is for a reason and it could be that we are simply walking into a trap where these napaks have done enough preparations and security arrangements. We should pick and choose our wars and take lessons who is who.

- What is the way out? Frankly, I don’t know. But I would objectively assess the situation and I am sure GOI has access to much more sophisticated intel. At the same time retaliation doesn’t mean NOT carrying a big stick. Anyone hurting Indians or encroaching on land should be made to pay a heavy price and the fear should be there so that they don’t repeat it. Be it Nepalis, Porkis or the Chinese.

- I do feel there was a massive intelligence failure. The Malidives case, China encroach in guise of an exercise (surely hasn’t happened overnight, what about our surveillance capabilities? We have an ITBP camp at the foot of finger 4 and the Chinese just pitched a camp on the other side blocking the access?), Nepal conundrum (There were enough indications that something like this could play out, not going into details) - the crux is in all these cases, we have let the incidents happen and then taken options, albeit successfully in many cases like the Maldives. But alas, we should take lessons and as someone pointed out, not prepare for the LAST WAR we fought.

 

[Sanglamorre]

We don't need to make them scared of india or anything like that till the time they don't cross the line.
Bhutan is truly friend of india. Congress government in some mid 2000s did some serious evil work to disturb relationship of india and bhutan but they failed to do that.
Bhutan is one of the biggest supporter of india.
So i don't agree with creating some type of fear there.
Bhutan local Buddhist people have seen what Chinese did with tibet that's why they stay away from cheen. And are happy with peaceful relationship with india.
Unlike nepal bhutan never used china card ta blackmail india.

I don't really want to comment on Bhutan because I feel my girlfriend being from there gives me rosy glasses a bit but we can't depend on these relationships keeping firm. Nepal, theoretically has far stronger threads linking us, yet we find ourselves in such bothersome affairs. Bhutan is an Indian protectorate, so they're just incapable of thumbing nose at us in the first place.

 

[right wing]

You're still seeing the Hindu civilization dream. Our path has differed from Nepal. For one thing, you'll not assimilate Nepalese Hinduism with Indian. The kind of dream you're seeing requires a trans national religious identity which pre-Abrahamic religions simply don't possess.

If goal is to swallow Nepal, do it now before China strengthens it. If goal is to keep it Hindu, independent state, ram their political system and control it fully with force and finance. Whatever we are doing, is just stupid.
Missteps yes,plain stupid no.

 

[Hiranyaksha]

We don't need to make them scared of india or anything like that till the time they don't cross the line.
Bhutan is truly friend of india. Congress government in some mid 2000s did some serious evil work to disturb relationship of india and bhutan but they failed to do that.
Bhutan is one of the biggest supporter of india.
So i don't agree with creating some type of fear there.
Bhutan local Buddhist people have seen what Chinese did with tibet that's why they stay away from cheen. And are happy with peaceful relationship with india.
Unlike nepal bhutan never used china card ta blackmail india.

mate just read about
https://thediplomat.com/2016/09/bhutans-dark-secret-the-lhotshampa-expulsion/

Bhutan killed loads of Hindus like some % of its population.

 

[Hiranyaksha]

China humari ladki lekar bhaag gaya and hum yahan baithe baithe ro ro rahe hai !
Izzat gayi Yaaro ! Kuch toh karna padega.

 

[asingha94]

https://m.rediff.com/amp/news/colum...oq1uSvr0It5O3Ym8aBvnjyUZotQq3t6uTPn2bunltg5io

 

[Varun2002]

Bhutan is one of the biggest supporter of india.
So i don't agree with creating some type of fear there.
Bhutan local Buddhist people have seen what Chinese did with tibet that's why they stay away from cheen. And are happy with peaceful relationship with india.
Unlike nepal bhutan never used china card ta blackmail india.

Right, and Bhutan's close relationship with India, and the absence of any major Chinese influence, will allow Bhutan to keep its soul and character, and yes its independence. Despite the nature of India-Bhutan relations. The latter is a necessary 'evil'( rather, compromise) to enable Bhutan to ward off the Chinese middle kingdom/celestial empire/silk road intrusion.

 

[Bhadra]

The thing is this forum doesnt understand why this is happening and some people are blindly favouring Nepalese over their own countrymen and claiming they are the biggest patriots the earth has seen and not knowing what it actually means.

The day article 370 was revoked this was bound to happen.

Pakistan feels threatened and went to Daddy China begging for help or Modi would conquer POK.

Daddy China thought something has to be done or it will loose Gwadar.

So China thought of teaching India a lesson next year in summer as August had come and a war could not be fought for long.

But Coronovirus came and China went into pressure.

So China has been not very agressive.

And needs another front opened on India verbally to justify what may now come.

If things are like you are claiming then do you wish that 3,5 Front War becomes a reality and Chinese objective is achieved. The way you are jumping it seems you want that to become reality tonight.

What does the traditional teaching on braking a bundle of sticks say - break those sticks individually not together? So give a break to your impertinence on calling out on others and castigating them as traitors..

 

[Bhadra]

The only kids in this thread are those who are not paying attention to printed news and experts talking on NewsX show!!!!!

Either they are biased or they have relatives in nepal...like Rajnath singh said..beti aur roti ka rista.

Anything wrong in that Rista? Rajnath is not the only one who has "Roti beti Ka Rista. There are million Indians (Indians) you have started insulting.

Do you think you have that right over fellow Indians. The people who have been ruled by Foreigners for thousands of years and still have no right to call out on fellow citizens who have brought and given a beti across the border with Nepal.

We have Muslims of Pakistan, Bengalis of Bangladesh. large Naga population astride the border with Myanmar. Tibetans both sides, Gorkhs and Indian across Nepal.... you are insulting all for the follies of a politician.

You are blind enough not to see the great Indic civilization links over vast subcontinent. Wish to subvert that..... ???????