India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Karthi]

Let's keep firing the shots in the air with any of our assumptions but what is the one part of this total indo-china dispute?
Let's see what was one of the Chinese goal in 1962 it was to remove india from leading position in non alliance and stop growth of indian influence in Asia.
After our defeat they successfully did that.

If india today run from one block to other block for help and aid this will show who is much more capable power in the region further enforcing Chinese influence.

The Chinese threat was there from 1962 , they are turned very violent in the past two decades , congrats to our Governments for not doing anything

 

[another_armchair]

The Chinese threat was there from 1962 , they are turned very violent in the past two decades , congrats to our Governments for not doing anything

What do you recommend we do?

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Poor Saurabh Jha does not know that there are only "perceptions" about each other's territory which only exists in minds, There are no lines, no demarcations, no pillars. Perceptions can change --- No ???

Indian perception is that Chinse road to Xinjiang is on Indian territory... what about That ???

What about Chinese claim lines in the Galwan area.. Has that been shared ?

 

[IndiaRising]

As per reports, our chaps were outnumbered. Ratio still being speculated but it seems like advantage PLA in that particular situation.

And our boys didn’t respond? CCP propagandists are crafting a narrative. Please don’t get stuck in it. Also, The problem with people is due to social media OSINT accounts gaining popularity, they want minute by minute details of what happens on the border. That’s not how IA does its job.

 

[Karthi]

What do you recommend we do?

Should have build infrastructure across LAC and it was also be benefited for People of NE . Should have deployed light we Artillery and Tanks . Adequate SAM s and air defence systems . EW systems etc .

 

[janme]

Guys, First of all stop spamming the thread with low quality aggressive/abusive posts. This is not Twitter/FB, its a defence forum. Keep calm and post something substantive/informative.

@LETHALFORCE @ezsasa @Dovah

 

[IndiaRising]

Army PRO response ab shaanth ho jao

 

[Rudy123]

Well Mr Rudy, How can one forget that the flashpoint of 1962 operations in Ladakh was Galwan itself where about ten Indian posts remained encircled by the Chinese for about six months, Encirclement was as close as 20 yards.

The problem is that if Indian Army gets about 4km into Galwan valley, Chinese posts in Depsang and adjacent areas get cut off and encircled. That is what had happened in 1962.

India has all the right to move into its side of LAC. When LAC itself is not defined you can not blame Indian side of any provocation. It is different if you have a map of LAC as approved by the Chinese. Do share it....

Sir, what I understand is depsang is well under our control. We have good infra established in depsang on our side. Infra development in Galawan will provide good connectivity to depsang and DBO. Crossing through galwan to LAC will provide agvantage at few peaks. Chinese reach from Galawan seems far in present maps, hence I deduce India choose this point to cross Shyok river. I am also surprised from where Chinese enter Galawan with such heavy machineries

If India decide to cut Chinese territory they may start from panong tso lake and cut G219 highway. Then DBO and depsang starts their role for strengthening northern sector. Expect retaliation in other fronts.

 

[another_armchair]

And our boys didn’t respond? CCP propagandists are crafting a narrative. Please don’t get stuck in it. Also, The problem with people is due to social media OSINT accounts gaining popularity, they want minute by minute details of what happens on the border. That’s not how IA does its job.

Our boys must/may have responded which is always the case. In a skirmish like we had in 2017, PLA men took cheap shots from behind against ITBP boys.

Propagandists Claim - Some of our boys were tossed into the water.

Elsewhere in Sikkim - IA Lt punched the face of a PLA major.

Why is it so hard for some of us to stomach reversals? It is not a video game where there won't be similar or proportionate response from your adversary.

Yes we trust the Army that's why we waited for confirmation from them after the Handwara encounter despite credible news from multiple sources that we had lost a Lt. Col and 4 others.

 

[Holy Triad]

Blaaast from the past



1963 :: Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit Said India Supports UN Seat For Mao's China Despite Attack On India

 

[Bhadra]

What about Chinese claim lines in the Galwan area.. Has that been shared ?

It has not been shared anywhere.

As per past reports, they were about to exchange maps of some sectors depicting their perception of LAC but the Chinese side declined.

Thre no written perception except a few published lines of Chinese claims as published in communist Party magazines prior to 1962, Those lines are also not official and any side can straightaway question those lines.

Then there is the line up to which the Chinese had advanced up to which would also include Tejpur in Assam.. or Guwahati which Nehru had ordered to be vacated...

Then there is a line where the Chinese had withdrawn post 11962 operations...

However there is no validity of such lines..

 

[Holy Triad]

@Ladakh
today, Indian forces match Chinese presence. At Doklam2017 India stared down China:cut to 1966 at Doklam India first gave China a reality check- not many know.a year later, Indian army gave PLA a bloody nose.
@ShivAroor

@juggernautbooks
#watershed1967 narrates the story

 

[fire starter]

seems like it's time came for alignment.

 

[Bhadra]

Our boys must/may have responded which is always the case. In a skirmish like we had in 2017, PLA men took cheap shots from behind against ITBP boys.

Propagandists Claim - Some of our boys were tossed into the water.

Elsewhere in Sikkim - IA Lt punched the face of a PLA major.

Why is it so hard for some of us to stomach reversals? It is not a video game where there won't be similar or proportionate response from your adversary.

Yes we trust the Army that's why we waited for confirmation from them after the Handwara encounter despite credible news from multiple sources that we had lost a Lt. Col and 4 others.

Our so called mouthpieces like @WARREN SS do not even know that LAC is with ITBP and IA is deployed in-depth areas. It only responds on need basis. Relating things to ground realities is out of their imagination.

Pardon them as they do not know of their sins .....

 

[IndiaRising]

Our boys must/may have responded which is always the case. In a skirmish like we had in 2017, PLA men took cheap shots from behind against ITBP boys.

Propagandists Claim - Some of our boys were tossed into the water.

Elsewhere in Sikkim - IA Lt punched the face of a PLA major.

Why is it so hard for some of us to stomach reversals? It is not a video game where there won't be similar or proportionate response from your adversary.

Yes we trust the Army that's why we waited for confirmation from them after the Handwara encounter despite credible news from multiple sources that we had lost a Lt. Col and 4 others.

The problem is one sided reporting. To say our boys were tossed in water while the rest of troops just sat there twiddling their thumbs is nauseating. Nothing but clickbait.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

It has not been shared anywhere.

As per past reports, they were about to exchange maps of some sectors depicting their perception of LAC but the Chinese side declined.

Thre no written perception except a few published lines of Chinese claims as published in communist Party magazines prior to 1962, Those lines are also not official and any side can straightaway question those lines.

Then there is the line up to which the Chinese had advanced up to which would also include Tejpur in Assam.. or Guwahati which Nehru had ordered to be vacated...

Then there is a line where the Chinese had withdrawn post 11962 operations...

However there is no validity of such lines..

I think to abandon building road infrastructure to Galwan valley, so that India retains the privilege of patrolling Galwan vallley on foot is stupidity. Since, we would always be at the mercy of the chinese who could revoke that privilege at will. We should continue building the road to Galwan valley, so that we can vacate the Chinese from the valley, with better logistics at hand..

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Now we have started to bring osint guy's on television.
This can act like do dhari tawlar we should be cautious with this.

Btw he is totally debunking the theory of 5k troops.

 

[patriots]

Again'na lots of misinformation spread by journos....
Whom to believe whom to not
Bdw if war breaks .
Which chineese weapons india should fear
And which indian weapons china will fear
@porky_kicker @Bleh @ezasa @IndianHawk

 

[WARREN SS]

Our so called mouthpieces like @WARREN SS do not even know that LAC is with ITBP and IA is deployed in-depth areas. It only responds on need basis. Relating things to ground realities is out of their imagination.

Pardon them as they do not know of their sins .....

We know where they are deployed but they Sitting ducks To PLA stand off's And rocket artillery

What we have Is 62 +54+150 Smerch and Pinaka's grads

Its Criminal That Even Having Indigenous rocket platform for 2 decades we have just inducted 54 unit
Do you think It Enough For Two fronts

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Now we have started to bring osint guy's on television.
This can act like do dhari tawlar we should be cautious with this.

Btw he is totally debunking the theory of 5k troops.

The days of government monopoly over narrative is long gone .. with public access to satellite imagery.. Governments have to learn to live with it..