India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Floydian]

Operation Chequerboard was a high-altitude military exercise conducted by India along the Chinese border in North East India during autumn of 1987.[when?] The exercise was conducted to test Indian military response in the Northeast Himalayan region and the US and Soviet reaction to potential Sino-Indian tensions in the region. The Chinese and Indian armies nearly went to war as both sides patrolled the desolate frontier and skirmishes were not infrequent.

The exercise involved 10 divisions of the Indian Army and several squadrons of the IAF and a redeployment of troops at several places in North East India. The Indian Army moved 3 divisions to positions around Wangdung,[1] where they were supplied and maintained solely by air. These troop reinforcements were over and above the 50,000 troops already present across Arunachal Pradesh.[2] The military exercise coincided with statements from India's Chief of Army Staff Krishnaswamy Sundarji that India recognizes the major boundary differences with China and Indian deployments are intended to give Beijing the benefit of the doubt.

(Need to do something like this now.)

Wasnt there some exercises conducted by the Mountain division recently?

Toh apan jatey na unkey 15Km under. Besides if the Illuyusin aircraft over sikkim thing, I think we have already done a couple of times.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Wasnt there some exercises conducted by the Mountain division recently?

Chinese are rattled because we are building up infrastructure across border LAC and main reason is upcoming IBG and some extent Rafales. Chinese fear our mountain corps most and now we are raising IBG which provides more teeth to our soldiers and Chinese are at disadvantage geographically to pose overwhelming threat. They fear India can cut their highway losing them south Tibet region ( Him Vijay excericse made Chinese to worry more).
With infra build up, IBG and Rafale ( highly maneuverable multi role aircraft over Tibet high ranges which Chinese doesn't have anything to match) they are trying to intimidate us. We have to bully these midgets ground soldiers regularly across LAC

 

[Karthi]

If they want war then prepare for it , motivate and gave confidence to our people , do our part. Use your Social Media accounts for spreading good news and bravery of Our forces

 

[cereal killer]

With India acquiring both S 400 & Rafale In upcoming years & with our strategic road construction along China border & LAC to be completed in 2022, China fears India can pose threat to Xinjiang. India will be much more tougher to handle then. So maybe they are trying to force India to back down. Diplomacy as well as our planning need to be at its best. We should not back down period.

 

[BangaliBabu]

With India acquiring both S 400 & Rafale In upcoming years & with our strategic road construction along China border & LAC to be completed in 2022, China fears India can pose threat to Xinjiang. India will be much more tougher to handle then. So maybe they are trying to force India to back down. Diplomacy as well as our planning need to be at its best. We should not back down period.

They are preparing for a sit-in Dharna across the LAC in protest of our future military belligerence under a right-wing, Hindutva, nationalistic Modi . They will return when Xi and Khujliwal offer them bat-soup for their great border-crossing Dharna........

 

[rajesh agarawal]

What will happen now ? Will india loose Ladakh also ?

 

[Karthi]

What will happen now ? Will india loose Ladakh also ?

China will loose Tibet thatsall

 

[rajesh agarawal]

China will loose Tibet thatsall

Sorry , but how ? Please explain in lay man term .

 

[cereal killer]

They are preparing for a sit-in Dharna across the LAC in protest of our future military belligerence under a right-wing, Hindutva, nationalistic Modi . They will return when Xi and Khujliwal offer them bat-soup for their great border-crossing Dharna........

Well maybe it is just a Dharna or Chinese have sensed a real opportunity. If it was only Ladakh then perhaps this would not be a big issue. But there is troop buildup going on in Sikkim border too. I guess this is equivalent to 1987 standoff. Chinese are maybe testing waters & so is India. Everything is slowly developing. Army Chief also visited Ladakh so Centre Govt. is aware.

 

[BangaliBabu]

What will happen now ? Will india loose Ladakh also ?

No China became reactive from proactive the day Art.370 removal created a new political map which came into effect from Oct.31, 2019. A new political map of India like that published from Oct.31 onwards have, to put it plainly, had a severe effect on our belligerent neighbour. The Indian military is free to conduct any operations over occupied soil in Ladakh (the Akshai Chin portion). Everything we say, build, install, operate and use regarding Ladakh region will have repercussions over the Chinese claim of Akshai Chin. It's the Indian military that is pro-active there, and there are arguments given by many other relevant people (I'm not one of them) for proving the same. Chinese claims over Akshai Chin are thin and they very well have to abandon that place in case of a skirmish, conflict or plain takeover by the Indian Army.

 

[Gautam Sarkar]

Please read the entire satellite imagery thread. Chinese positions aren't all that it is cracked up to be :

Interesting sat imagery analysis - India's hardly turning the other cheek. Key pts:
1. India constructs a fwd road (not Chinese)
2. China sets up a blocking troop (not India)
3. Permanent structures r by India (not China)

But 9 feet chinaman syndrome

 

[Gandaberunda]

No China became reactive from proactive the day Art.370 removal created a new political map which came into effect from Oct.31, 2019. A new political map of India like that published from Oct.31 onwards have, to put it plainly, had a severe effect on our belligerent neighbour. The Indian military is free to conduct any operations over occupied soil in Ladakh (the Akshai Chin portion). Everything we say, build, install, operate and use regarding Ladakh region will have repercussions over the Chinese claim of Akshai Chin. It's the Indian military that is pro-active there, and there are arguments given by many other relevant people (I'm not one of them) for proving the same. Chinese claims over Akshai Chin are thin and they very well have to abandon that place in case of a skirmish, conflict or plain takeover by the Indian Army.

Chinese are eyeing Tawang - Arunachal Pradesh area than they hold Akshay chin and in War if they tend to lose Akshay chin and gain territory of Tawang and Sikkim area will be fine for them. Chinese strategic interest is in dokhlam Sikkim and Tawang region as holding Akshay chin strategic advg is of no use because India holds Strategic Siachin glacier and dominates all high peaks.

 

[AMCA]

Well maybe it is just a Dharna or Chinese have sensed a real opportunity. If it was only Ladakh then perhaps this would not be a big issue. But there is troop buildup going on in Sikkim border too. I guess this is equivalent to 1987 standoff. Chinese are maybe testing waters & so is India. Everything is slowly developing. Army Chief also visited Ladakh so Centre Govt. is aware.

There is troop buildup in AP as well. We have moved our troops and artry guns closer to the border.

 

[doreamon]

In a short term war there r no winner ... unless navy airforce joins .. And that too wht i have heard before that china topography does nt allow a advantage for its air force in tibet region.. And as per as navy war fare is concerned .. if situation goes that bad we are nt far behind.. we r geographically in a strategic position .. chinese ship ll think twice abt sukhoi attached with brahmosh before coming to our shore .. If china has to win it has to convince pak to attack frm western position and engage us for a long time till we r economically drained .. at least fr a year... I dnt think world ll be a mute spectator .. and we ll be a mute spectator and keep on with just conventional war...

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[ezsasa]

troop build up is not the real story here, the Infra construction by BRO is the real story.

irrespective of the hot tempers, as long as BRO complete their projects in next 3 years, it’s mission accomplished.

since it is a long time frame, Our side needs to be more innovative and patient, and not get sucked into any confrontation.

end goal are the roads.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Army Chief reviews LAC situation amid mounting tensions with China
General MM Naravane visited the 14 Corps headquarters in Leh and reviewed the situation with the top brass of the Northern Command, sources said.


Manjeet Singh Negi
New Delhi
May 23, 2020UPDATED: May 23, 2020 12:11 IST
China has increased its presence in areas around Pangong Tso Lake, Galwan Valley.
Army Chief General MM Naravane. (File photo from PTI)
Amid the ongoing tensions with China in the Ladakh sector in three locations, Army chief General MM Naravane reviewed the situation with the top military brass in Leh.

General MM Naravane visited the 14 Corps headquarters in Leh and reviewed the situation with the top brass of the Northern Command, sources said.

The meeting comes at a time when there are tensions in the eastern Ladakh area over Chinese objection to the road construction activities in the Galwan Nala area by India.

Field commanders of India and China are talking along the Line of Actual Control in the Ladakh sector to resolve the ongoing stand-off.

Sources said it was after the Chinese infrastructure development that the Indian side also built a proper network of roads on its side of the LAC using the Border Roads Organisation.

Even though the Chinese choppers have been flying close to the Indian patrolling line in Galwan Nala, they raise objections over India's flying activities in the area.

The situation is being monitored closely by the top brass in the national security domain and efforts are being made to deescalate the situation.

 

[prasadr14]

In Indo-China war, we are blessed with natural advantage.

On north mountains with unfavorable terrain.
On east with Sea and a thin way that can choke at will.

Even their Airforce would be pressed to do any real damage deep inside,

If things go south, they could very well end up losing Tibet.

Just wondering, what would Chinese options if we do a blockade on Straits of Malacca?

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Chinese are eyeing Tawang - Arunachal Pradesh area than they hold Akshay chin and in War if they tend to lose Akshay chin and gain territory of Tawang and Sikkim area will be fine for them. Chinese strategic interest is in dokhlam Sikkim and Tawang region as holding Akshay chin strategic advg is of no use because India holds Strategic Siachin glacier and dominates all high peaks.

There was an article in WARONTHEROCKS long ago where an arny officer said.. Sikkim is where India attacks China, not the other way round.. as the terrain favors India.. Tawang, Arunachal and Aksai Chin is where the Chinese might have held the upper hand.. but even that might be questionable now..

 

[cereal killer]

There is troop buildup in AP as well. We have moved our troops and artry guns closer to the border.

So it is concerning. I am not much aware of how is our infrastructure in AP so let's see. But to those people who are bringing Navy into all this I might like to add Navy can be used only in case of a all out war. Why China will divert all its Naval assets in attacking Indian waters when it itself is wary of Japanese & US navy in SCS? Air force is our advantage here.

 

[rajesh agarawal]

Lot of news heard about tawang, is india well gaurding tawang ?