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What in the name of f*cking f*ck?

This is bullshit!! GB is like 90% of PoK & why will Porkies agree to this? Though I do agree there is no BRI without India & China knows it. And by the way if any such deal is given to India we will happily take it. Direct route to Afghanistan & Central Asia who would refuse it. Pakistan is sure as hell not giving it up for free. We have to take it by force.
 

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This is bullshit!! GB is like 90% of PoK & why will Porkies agree to this? Though I do agree there is no BRI without India & China knows it. And by the way if any such deal is given to India we will happily take it. Direct route to Afghanistan & Central Asia who would refuse it. Pakistan is sure as hell not giving it up for free. We have to take it by force.
Its bullshit. dude is trolling everyone, and people here are taking the bait.
 

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This is bullshit!! GB is like 90% of PoK & why will Porkies agree to this? Though I do agree there is no BRI without India & China knows it. And by the way if any such deal is given to India we will happily take it. Direct route to Afghanistan & Central Asia who would refuse it. Pakistan is sure as hell not giving it up for free. We have to take it by force.
Chinese offer is 3rd party mediation in an otherwise illegitimate and unilateral territorial aggression by Pak. Bharat flatly refused any such deals/mediation earlier also (forgot those Cold War times?). Bharat will not only take back it's territory using lethal and unacceptable counterforce but also make Pak pay for it's proxy terrorism in Kashmir and elsewhere. And, of course, Chinese involvement in any territorial disputes of other nations means a 99% chance of Chinese laying waste to such deals after the ink over the dotted lines dries.
 
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Chinese offer is 3rd party mediation in an otherwise unilateral territorial illegitimate aggression by Pak. Bharat flatly refused any such deals/mediation earlier also (forgot those Cold War times?). Bharat will not only take back it's territory using lethal and unacceptable counterforce but also make Pak pay for it's proxy terrorism in Kashmir and elsewhere. And, of course, Chinese involvement in any territorial disputes of other nations means a 99% chance of Chinese laying waste to such deals after the ink over the dotted lines dries.
The Chinese offered to change the name of project as well as concede that GB is indeed a disputed territory.
Thats it , they aint giving shit. They invested over a trillion for BRI and india joining the project improves chances of better return on their investment.
 

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The Chinese offered to change the name of project as well as concede that GB is indeed a disputed territory.
Thats it , they aint giving shit. They invested over a trillion for BRI and india joining the project improves chances of better return on their investment.
That's the problem with us. If we do not rightfully claim our legitimate territories by force (whatever that maybe -- religious or otherwise) we will still be dependent on a 3rd party affirmation to solve bilateral or unilateral disputes. What makes you think Chinese will stop saying that GB is disputed once we have regained back our Kashmir/Ladakh territory?? That's exactly what the British did before they left and that's what the Chinese are trying to emulate. They have contemplated such a deal (if really it happened) for a long time since. Such a deal, in my opinion, is more like the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggresion pact, but on a more subtle scale. This deal is not the beginning to an end but the start of a new dispute chapter in our complex territorial history.
 
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One good thing about these incidents is that, it has brought aksai chin front & centre in the minds of young India.

Nationalists should use this opportunity to drill this into heads of young India, if any are yet to understand.

if aksai chin ever comes back, it will be by soldiers volunteered, leaders elected & the taxes paid by this young India when they become tax paying citizens. I am pretty sure my tax money is good enough Only for defence not offence.

and I am yet to see one good new explainer video with Contemporary maps ,graphics & dates that explain the aksai chin issue in it’s entirety, for young audience.
 
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This is bullshit!! GB is like 90% of PoK & why will Porkies agree to this? Though I do agree there is no BRI without India & China knows it. And by the way if any such deal is given to India we will happily take it. Direct route to Afghanistan & Central Asia who would refuse it. Pakistan is sure as hell not giving it up for free. We have to take it by force.
It's old offer India already rejected in UPA time and Modi govt was also offered and rejected...
Baba is just using that in present scuffle to gain points in information warfare!
Also People saying We take back GB we get access to central Asia should know that entire Wakan corridor is under Taliban control and Chinese has sizable presence . This narrow corridor will be nightmare for trade unless radical terrorist groups are neutralised!
 

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You have to understand Chinese dilemma.
They want secure access to arabian gulf for oil and gas supply which USA or India can't block.

This was the reason for cpec . They bet on pakistan gradually becoming stronger. But now they know pakistan is hopeless. All cpec moeny is gone into blackhole projects. Road through POk and GB is always on mercy of India. Even if we don't capture GB and pok which we definitely will , we can still destroy single road china pak connectivity with single cruise missile in mountainous area.

Same goes for gwadar port . With Indian Navy expanding gwadar is never safe.

Overall Chinese have learned without India cooperation there is no energy security for china.
 

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I was told by a member in this forum not to post anything that doesn't exist in our inventory or future needs! 😏
These are future needs. ITBP wanted Humvee equivalent in 2016. For various reasons they couldn't get them. Settled for Scorpio and Fortuner. So if these things are available now. They may get it.


 

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India should issue advisory asking all foreign Nationals to evacuate from Indian territory of GB and POK which is under illegal occupation of Pakistan. India shall not be responsible for safety of any foreign national staying illegally in Indian territory of GB and POK. Any person staying there illegally without permission from GOI will be Imprisoned. This applies to all including any Chinese workers and soldiers stationed there.
 

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You have to understand Chinese dilemma.
They want secure access to arabian gulf for oil and gas supply which USA or India can't block.

This was the reason for cpec . They bet on pakistan gradually becoming stronger. But now they know pakistan is hopeless. All cpec moeny is gone into blackhole projects. Road through POk and GB is always on mercy of India. Even if we don't capture GB and pok which we definitely will , we can still destroy single road china pak connectivity with single cruise missile in mountainous area.

Same goes for gwadar port . With Indian Navy expanding gwadar is never safe.

Overall Chinese have learned without India cooperation there is no energy security for china.
is there some confusion? CPEC passes thru GB not mirpur.

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Chinese offer is 3rd party mediation in an otherwise illegitimate and unilateral territorial aggression by Pak. Bharat flatly refused any such deals/mediation earlier also (forgot those Cold War times?). Bharat will not only take back it's territory using lethal and unacceptable counterforce but also make Pak pay for it's proxy terrorism in Kashmir and elsewhere. And, of course, Chinese involvement in any territorial disputes of other nations means a 99% chance of Chinese laying waste to such deals after the ink over the dotted lines dries.
Bro what you are talking about is indeed what every Indian wants. But we need to be practical here Porkies are in a great position in GB in terms of logistics & occupy heights & know the terrain even though there is no denying we can take back GB but we will also suffer as well. This is a huge area we are talking about not a single town or a district. To keep China out we will need to have some sort of deal with them about CPEC & BRI. Also we exactly don't know how will local population react to it.
 
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