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Waanar

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Gov needs our support , but seriously isnt this nonsense , i mean IA has a shortage of officers but other than that dont we already have a large army ??
Militias to hold onto captured territories will throw a spanner in everything because we can throw a lot of bodies at them, that too in civilian areas which they can't bomb.
It'll be impossible for the Chinis to root us out if we're say.... More than the actual population of Tibet. 😂

You ever heard the dissenting local populace? Ever heard of an express dissenting non local but very keen populace?

First of it's kind, I tell you.

Every little lane will be a possible death zone.
I'm sure military commanders who came up with a novel idea like Rashtriya Rifles can find a cheap, effective solution to get us into the fight.
 

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If Modi believes that we are a nation of lions then we should act like one.
Start egging the Chinese where it hurts the most i.e, Taiwan Hong Kong and SCS.
Taiwan is to China what Pakistan is to India.
While the Chinese fully back Pakis we don't do the same for Taiwan. 70 years Khangress failed to Grab the Jugular veins of China I expect this to change with Modi Government.
It's time to up the ante.
 

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The current escalation is not about aksai Chin, it more about the area behind pangong Iake.

might as well use the opportunity to convert the grey area into either our area or no-man zone.

what is the size of this grey area anyways?
In order to understand that you have to understand what is the crux of India China dispute.

China claims outer Tibet that is the entire Arunachal Pradesh.
Is it with Chinese - No.
Can China capture it - No.
Where is China occupying Indian territory > - Aksaichin?
Can India capture it ?
The answer is - yes.

From where and how ?

DBO is the place that is nearest to G219 - The Chinese road between Tibet and Xiniang. Throgh DBO plains and Karakoram river valley.
DBO has a tankable country to the west leading to the Chinese raod.
DBO is maintainable by road from Leh through Khardungla - Nubra Valley as also from Darbuk - Shyok valley.
DBO is air maintainable.
DBO - Karakoram Pass area is at the junction of Siachin, Aksaichin and territory ceded by Pakistan to China.
DBO is thus important for defence of Aksaichin as also for launching an offensive into Aksaichin.
That is why SSN is so important which the Chinese intend to cut off by intrusion at Galwan, Hot spring / Bogra and DBO areas... or wish to provide more depth to Aksaichin.

China does believe that India wants to take back Aksai Chin. It is India which is now coercing China and they are indeed afraid... If any battle does take place it bing to be around Galwan- Bogra- Trig Height - DBO...

Forget about PTSO which seems to be diversionary...
 
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Guys, stop feeding these CCP trolls. Notice that these guys are never part of any discussion (this incident is being discussed for like what 20 pages now) but suddenly with the drubbing they got, appear with counter propaganda. (Always armed with the same) No one stopped them from releasing their images earlier right and now they tout an == based off of 1 image of a single incident.

Yeah there could be injuries at our side, and that is solely because these a$$holes never play fair. They came armed with clubs with barbed wires to cause max injuries. Also, notice how they took position on hilltops with stones, shameless can’t even fight face to face. Look at our guys, they were armed only with riot gear and still managed to push these sissies back. Look at their unflinching bravery at the face of all odds. The injuries incident could have well been from the face off where 75 guys got injured from both sides and some had to be airlifted. As I mentioned, for every man injured at our side, there should be 2x Chinese lying half dead somewhere out there.

THESE A$$ES STARTED A WAR / LAND GRAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC WHICH THEY THEMSELVES SPREAD. However rich or advanced, the Chinese might become, CIVILIZED they will never be.
 

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Do you have similar OSINT? If yes, publish it here.
I have the closed ones. Which won't do any good either ways. Rest is something that a thorough analysis of open sourced information, including and not limited to the Raksha Mantri's interview, will make self apparent rather quickly.

[--Redacted--]
Sigh. The redacted portion.

I pose questions so that members think for themselves. A contrarian post is meant to try and evoke a thought out response, as opposed to a jingoistic irrationality covered in garb of 'patriotism'. Contrarian view point is not always necessary meant to oppose.

Somebody rightly defined it - I play the devil's advocate.
 

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That fellow was responsible for annexation of Tibet and Indo-China War. His shortsightedness lead us to this juncture. Whole Tibet to China and adamant for Thagla ridge.
 

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In order to understand that you have to understand what is the crux of India China dispute.

China claims outer Tibet that is the entire Arunachal Pradesh.
Is it with Chinese - No.
Can China capture it - No.
Where is China occupying Indian territory > - Aksaichin?
Can India capture it ?
The answer is - yes.

From where and how ?

DBO is the place that is nearest to G219 - The Chinese road between Tibet and Xiniang. Throgh DBO plains and Karakoram river valley.
DBO has a tankable country to the west leading to the Chinese raod.
DBO is maintainable by road from Leh through Khardungla - Nubra Valley as also from Darbuk - Shyok valley.
DBO is air maintainable.
DBO - Karakoram Pass area is at the junction of Siachin, Aksaichin and territory ceded by Pakistan to China.
DBO is thus important for defence of Aksaichin as also for launching an offensive into Aksaichin.
That is why SSN is so important which the Chinese intend to cut off by intrusion at Galwan, Hot spring / Bogra and DBO areas... or wish to provide more depth to Aksaichin.

China does believe that India wants to take back Aksai Chin. It is India which is now coercing China and they are indeed afraid... If any battle does take place it bing to be around Galwan- Bogra- Trig Height - DBO...

Forget about PTSO which seems to be diversionary...
Well very informative. Any idea What are Chinese strategic troop incertion points/ bases in case Indian army advances in above said region. How will they match us? what will be there postures wrt to advancing Indian army!
 

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damn!!! the mighty PLAGF are engaging with neighbouring country's border police.
:rofl:
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PLA patch is of Ground Forces HQ. Looks like Beijing is directly involved.
No, it's only "People's Liberation Army - Army". We don't hav Armed Police in Tibet -India LAC area,
all the armed force are PLAA.

Even those boats on Pangong lake we are making fun of "Western Fleet" belong to PLAA
 

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No, it's only "People's Liberation Army - Army". We don't have border police in Tibet -India LAC area,
all the armed force are PLAA
That's the point, infantry regular's are engaging and getting into fisticuffs with border police.
 

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We Will uproot the Camp what Chinese Did is break of trust after Decades
They have done nothing new that has not been happening since decades. So where is the 'trust' factor?

As part of CBM, inspite of ground force commander's objections and opposition, we have withdrawn forces under Indo-China JWG.

Example. 164 Mountain Brigade, tasked with charge for Dokalam was moved down from its location at Kupup. This, when the tri-junction and chumbi valley defenses needed high troop concentration.

Point was forcefully put forward by the CO of the unit tasked for same both as a CO and as the offg Commander of 164 Mountain Brigade only to be overruled by the PVNR GoI in power. Most of infrastructure build up in Northern Dokalam has taken place after this.

Otherwise, own troops were actively patrolling into Northern Dokalam.
 

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Read the entire thread from Nitin Gokhale...
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Finally, this is why the current standoff is different: One, a lot of planning and thought has gone into the assault from the Chinese side. And two, it is designed to provoke violent response.

 

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Read the entire thread from Nitin Gokhale...
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Finally, this is why the current standoff is different: One, a lot of planning and thought has gone into the assault from the Chinese side. And two, it is designed to provoke violent response.

So conclusion is, we will loose some strategic positions if we try to maintain status quo? If there aim is to incite violence then they are not gonna back down.
 
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