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yea this is the place .

:lehappy: was thinking i was trolled but something may have happened.

Chinese may have constructed close to our patrol point 4 or something along that line and we blocked them.

we are at disadvantage around here , quite possible that another 'depsang' style stand off is going to happen .
So that something was done by chinese not by us
 

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yea this is the place .

:lehappy: was thinking i was trolled but something may have happened.

Chinese may have constructed close to our patrol point 4 or something along that line and we blocked them.

we are at disadvantage around here , quite possible that another 'depsang' style stand off is going to happen .
So just some new Chinese construction over a nalla in legacy issue area? Nah not worth ruining this weekend having a meltdown :dude: .
 

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The only Advantage that PLA has over the Indian army is Numerical Superiority. PLA has more assets as compared to Indian Army.
PLA can not operate more than few planes with few varieties from PLA air bases at high altitude with only limited payload.India can operate atleast double with double the payload.
 

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PLA has more tanks as compared to India, they have more vehicles, more Helicopters and also more missiles as compared to India.
Not true. China had advantage only because of light tank. With robust infrastructure India able to deploy T 72, T90 and even K9 vajra. PLA choppers can not fly in Himalayas. Do you know that?
 

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We have higjly specized weapons like M777, Brahmos Blk 3, Pralay , ALH, LCH etc which are specialized weapond for mountain. Ex caliber, hammer, spice and SAAW are game changers. So far as logistics is concern, we lead by a big margin. Chinooks, Globmasters are game changer.

China has only 2 limited advantages. Long range cruise missiles in big numbers and Longer range MBRL.
 

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PLA can not operate more than few planes with few varieties from PLA air bases at high altitude with only limited payload.India can operate atleast double with double the payload.
PLA can operate whatever they have be it J-20/J-11/J-16/J-10 etc. And by the way coming to this Notion of Chinese Aircrafts being able to fly with only limited payload in high altitude regions like Himalayas, how true is this? This needs further validation.
 

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Not true. China had advantage only because of light tank. With robust infrastructure India able to deploy T 72, T90 and even K9 vajra. PLA choppers can not fly in Himalayas. Do you know that?
You need to understand something which is that PLA has complete edge in terms of numerical Superiority over IA, PLA has more tanks, more Artillery, pretty much we are outnumbered in every regard.

And do you think that Chinese will not be able to have their own robust infrastructure so that they will be able to deploy their own assets?

And what is your evidence that Chinese choppers cannot fly in Himalayas?
 

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PLA can operate whatever they have be it J-20/J-11/J-16/J-10 etc. And by the way coming to this Notion of Chinese Aircrafts being able to fly with only limited payload in high altitude regions like Himalayas, how true is this? This needs further validation.
J 20 are not enough. China can effectively use Su 30, Su35 and J 10 in limited numbers from only 2 air fields they have on very high altitude which limits their payload.
 

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J 20 are not enough. China can effectively use Su 30, Su35 and J 10 in limited numbers from only 2 air fields they have on very high altitude which limits their payload.
See you need to understand one thing which is that the amount of payload Capacity of any jet is mainly dependent on how powerful and how much thrust it's engines produce, Chinese engines are Reportedly performing even more poorer as compared to Russian ones because Chinese ones generate less thrust.

From my POV, SU-35s of PLAAF will perform the best Altitude wise because of Russian engine being better than Chinese ones. Ofcourse all this is claimed by media.
 

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You need to understand something which is that PLA has complete edge in terms of numerical Superiority over IA, PLA has more tanks, more Artillery, pretty much we are outnumbered in every regard.

And do you think that Chinese will not be able to have their own robust infrastructure so that they will be able to deploy their own assets?

And what is your evidence that Chinese choppers cannot fly in Himalayas?
What woll you do with numerical superiority when you can use only 10 pc of your asset at any time?

Have you read the new US report on airforce comparison? They have rated India much above China in third place after US, Russia. Numerical superiority doesn't count at all.
 

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See you need to understand one thing which is that the amount of payload Capacity of any jet is mainly dependent on how powerful and how much thrust it's engines produce, Chinese engines are Reportedly performing even more poorer as compared to Russian ones because Chinese ones generate less thrust.

From my POV, SU-35s of PLAAF will perform the best Altitude wise because of Russian engine being better than Chinese ones. Ofcourse all this is claimed by media.
Not only that. Altitude of airfield plays very important role. From high altitude take off, payload reduces to less than half. More over, they are far away from LAC.
 

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