India-China 2021 Border conflict

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India’s Missile Test Seen as Warning to China After Breakdown in Border Talks
The long-range Agni-5 is country’s only missile capable of reaching Beijing




The Agni-5 missile, on display in New Delhi in 2013, has the power to hit a target up to 3,100 miles away.
PHOTO: MANISH SWARUP/ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Shan Li
Oct. 28, 2021 10:59 am ET


NEW DELHI—An Indian missile test was seen by security experts as a warning shot to China after military talks between the two countries over a contentious border dispute broke down earlier this month.
India’s Defense Ministry said it successfully launched on Wednesday the Agni-5, the country’s longest-range missile, with the power to hit a target up to 3,100 miles away.
Security experts said the launch of the missile, the only one in India’s arsenal capable of reaching Beijing, was a pointed reminder to China that the South Asian nation has the firepower to fight back if tensions flare up again.

“India doesn’t speak out through words, they speak out through their actions, in symbolism in the form of these kinds of tests,” said N.C. Bipindra, an independent New Delhi-based strategic affairs and defense analyst. India has tested the Agni-5 seven times, he added.

Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/indias...estVariant=cx_2&cx_artPos=0&mod=WTRN#cxrecs_s
 

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Do what the Soviet Union did

China is doing worse. It is picking on sizeable opponents in a direct conflict, unlike the Cold War where Ruskies confronted the Muricans indirectly but picked on pretty smaller countries in a direct conflict. And much to China's dismay, 2 major countries have a border with it- India and Japan(maritime).
China will lose this really badly- they counted their chickens way before they could hatch. Only a big GDP and military isn't going to win the war. They wanted to fight a global alliance with a bunch of thugs and sellouts on their sides (like Pak, N Korea, etc)
 

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Chinese military had a walkover, over the unprepared and hastily rushed Indian Army in 1962 near Tawang. Their main objective was Tawang, which they captured and then withdrew. The leaked portions of Henderson-Brook report on 1962 debacle blamed bad political and diplomatic management in the first part but blamed military order of battle for hastily assembled troops. The Indian generals and colonels had no idea that Chinese have assembled a force right next to the border, close to Thagla Ridge capable of climbing down and reaching Tawang. One column reached Tawang easily after beating Brigadier Dhalvi boys. Other two Chinese column waited about a month and infiltrated via BumLa and Bhutan. The troops at SeLA lead by Brigadier Hoshiar Singh were surrounded and had no choice but to retreat. Unlucky for them, their retreat route was blocked as Chinese who had reached Bomdila and captured brigade headquarters there. Then there was only few choices, Indian troops surrender or straglers reach the Foothills. About 3,000 of our boys surrendered. About the same number hoodwink the Chinese and reached the Foothills.

Can the Chinese do the same in 2021. The time of the year is same as pre-winter as in 1962. As the reports are appearing that Chinese are building military infrastructure opposite Tawang, just across the Tibet/India ridge line, hence it is possible.

Very unlikely! …. This time the Indian Army is so well prepared both for defence and offence that going for Chinese troops is unlikely. If the Chinese leave the safety of the ridge line which is called McMohan line and crossover to invade, the well prepared Indian troops would close the gate of their entry and force the invading troops to surrender. There would be no other choice. We need to accept a surrender of 3,000 Chinese troops together with their generals and colonels to wash away that humiliating defeat of 1962…….. Please Chinese do come, give us a chance to beat the hell out of you.
Yeah. I had read about the complete unpreparedness on the part of military in 1962, mostly caused by incompetent defence minister and compliant generals. Also unwillingness to fight on part of political leadership.
It ultimately leads to willingness to fight, to the end. If you are willing to fight till last person in the country, noone can defeat you.
 

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For the small arms watchers, good old Sterling makes a presence 😁


Here's a vid on the Sela tunnel.
 

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Our objectives are not so good. We only think of defending ourselves. Our objective must be clear: to wipe off CCP off the face of the earth. Once our objective gets clear, our actions will also align.
I think we should agree to settle border disputes in China's favour.

agree to give them Tawang , bits of AP , Depsang Y-Junc , Demchok , Kaurik etc

Invite Xi Jinping + top leadership of PLA and CCP for singing ceremony to Delhi then nuke Beijing , Shanghi and Shenzhen.

we will be doing world a favour , i am not a violent person , but i dont think i cant handle another epidemic because some chinese asshole ate some creature he found in the forest.
 

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Bad peace is still better than good war.

Having said that I hope and pray that we have used our time for adequate resource build up and training. Now GOD helps us when time comes to meet the enemy on the battlefield.
Waiting it out, we are giving the Chinese to also get prepared. More prepared = more lethal = more deaths. Had we nipped this in the bud with some kinetic activity from the initial incursion, we would be in a different place.
 

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