India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[Bhurki]

Wow, this thread has become quite pessimistic all of a sudden.

 

[Knowitall]

Wow, this thread has become quite pessimistic all of a sudden.

This is not all of a sudden its just that as days and months pass by and winter comes closer what many people feared is happening.

The fear that we won't fight back.

 

[kaaleshwaar]

Hope to god that there is some announcement or even some hint or sign or anything today or else chances of us doing something become slim.

 

[Bhurki]

This is not all of a sudden its just that as days and months pass by and winter comes closer what many people feared is happening.

The fear that we won't fight back.

Well, that has been clear for quite some time now, hasnt it?
If there was to be a counterhold of territory or an attack, it would have happened within a week of the incident. Thats just how long the honeymoon period lasts when a force is expected to retaliate.
Once you miss that period of 7-10 days, any aggression that you show is seen is escalatory.

Eg - Iran firing ballistic missiles at US base after suleimani's death.

 

[Sehwag213]

From BRF. The guy is/was a senior diplomat in Indian government (He once gave a hint)

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From same person

 

[Knowitall]

Well, that has been clear for quite some time now, hasnt it.
If there was to be a counterhold of territory or an attack, it would have happened within a week of the incident. Thats just how long the honeymoon period lasts when a force is expected to retaliate.
Once you miss that period of 7-10 days, any aggression that you show is seen is escalatory.

That's quite true but most people here including me were actually hoping that the wait would be worth it seems that's not the case anymore.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Hope to god that there is some announcement or even some hint or sign or anything today or else chances of us doing something become slim.

Ram temple foundation day.. and Independence day are over .. So, can we have some action now ?

 

[Bhurki]

That's quite true but most people here including me were actually hoping that the wait would be worth it seems that's not the case anymore.

Wait would be worth for what?

If a limited retaliation would've happened, like Iran hitting US base with BM after suliemani (to which the US didnt even respond back, after its own base being hit !!! ), not only the national morale could've been kept high, but aggressor would've understood the going would get tough from here on.

Any military step taken now will just give the enemy a chance to retaliate, and it is upto them to choose the scale of retaliation.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Atleast BJP Gilgit Baltistan did not get Rajnath's message and continues to be expansionist

 

[Brood Father]

Atleast BJP Gilgit Baltistan did not get Rajnath's message and continues to be expansionist

Since when Claiming our territory is called expansionism ..Our map includes GB so it ours

 

[nick_indian]

Since when Claiming our territory is called expansionism ..Our map includes GB so it ours

Actually if you see, all expansionists say the same thing about the land they seek.

 

[Brood Father]

Actually if you see, all expansionists say the same thing about the land they seek.

Sorry I am not a world citizen but I am an Indian so I can tell only my version and this is not a debate.
Btw GB is not expansionism but Akhand Bharat is..

 

[nick_indian]

Sorry I am not a world citizen but I am an Indian so I can tell only my version and this is not a debate.
Btw GB is not expansionism but Akhand Bharat is..

Expansionists also make claims based on their own country's versions of history. I am not debating. Just made a point.

Anyway, I personally believe that taking or trying to take any Muslim dominated area from Pakistan by force would be counter productive. Would just be another pain in the ass like Kashmir Valley.

If we can, we should just take some uninhabited land or areas inhabited by pro India population, if any.

 

[Lancer]

Wow, this thread has become quite pessimistic all of a sudden.

The longer this current weird situation drags on, and the more dumb, generic comments we hear from the establishment about age of expansionism/peaceful country - the more things will get anxious, nasty and pessimistic.

I've been trying very hard to keep a cool head, and keep faith in the leadership, but without some significant, visible action in the near future - even I won't be able to contain myself forever.

 

[garg_bharat]

This is not all of a sudden its just that as days and months pass by and winter comes closer what many people feared is happening.

The fear that we won't fight back.

We will fight back. And we are fighting back.

You guys are pessimistic for nothing.

 

[garg_bharat]

Expansionists also make claims based on their own country's versions of history. I am not debating. Just made a point.

Anyway, I personally believe that taking or trying to take any Muslim dominated area from Pakistan by force would be counter productive. Would just be another pain in the ass like Kashmir Valley.

If we can, we should just take some uninhabited land or areas inhabited by pro India population, if any.

GB is a tempting target. So is Sindh Baluchistan. Muslim is not the issue. Issue is how amenable population is to India's goals.

 

[garg_bharat]

The longer this current weird situation drags on, and the more dumb, generic comments we hear from the establishment about age of expansionism/peaceful country - the more things will get anxious, nasty and pessimistic.

I've been trying very hard to keep a cool head, and keep faith in the leadership, but without some significant, visible action in the near future - even I won't be able to contain myself forever.

Not much is likely to happen immediately if that is what you expect. The war will likely start from middle east.

We are very close to a world war.

 

[Sehwag213]

 

[Sehwag213]

I had a dream last night. Xi had decided to pull back PLA but before going there was a huge skirmish (without guns) at LAC.

 

[revenge002]

Annual report of ministry of transport india 2019-20 road projects in northeast and boundry states with china