India-China 2020 Border Dispute - Military and Strategic Discussion

[DownWithCCP]

We will give befitting reply if enemy attacks us: Rajnath Singh

 

[Jaymax61]

We will give befitting reply if enemy attacks us: Rajnath Singh

In a message to the armed forces on the eve of Independence Day, he said India believes in winning hearts and not land.

 

[utubekhiladi]

looks photoshopped.

It is

no, this shit is real

https:// www.amazon.com /Xis-One-Sandra-Coupland-ebook/dp/B01N1XZ33L/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=sandra+coupland&qid=1597417138&sr=8-1

 

[cereal killer]

In a message to the armed forces on the eve of Independence Day, he said India believes in winning hearts and not land.

PM: This is not an era of expansionism
Now Ninda turtle with his own version & some people still have wet dreams of taking back GB including me
I noticed one thing after his historical speech on 15th August 2016 PM modi hasn't said anything about Gilgit Baltistan nor Balochistan.

 

[utubekhiladi]

looks photoshopped.

It is

no, this shit is real

https:// www.amazon.com /Xis-One-Sandra-Coupland-ebook/dp/B01N1XZ33L/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=sandra+coupland&qid=1597417138&sr=8-1

here is the chapter one from that book

 

[DownWithCCP]

PM: This is not an era of expansionism
Now Ninda turtle with his own version & some people still have wet dreams of taking back GB including me
I noticed one thing after his historical speech on 15th August 2016 PM modi hasn't said anything about Gilgit Baltistan nor Balochistan.

Politically for GB it's now or never, I don't see any nationalist leader of such high approval anytime in the near or perhaps even distant future.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Surrender disguised as Victory?

 

[Mikel]

Surrender disguised as Victory?

Broad agreement is the key word. Means we have some demands, they have some demands, and only a small portion of intersection has been met. This thing is going to drag on

 

[Shashank Nayak]

For once it could be good news for India which was not given due weightage by our MEA. That the Chinese are facing problems in maintaining their Chinese Army in Tibet. To obviate that Chinese embarked upon raising BDR and recruiting Tibetan in the Army. And now they are thinking of recruiting Gorkhas to defend Tibet .

Do not blame Gorkhas if they get intp PLA. They will go to any country for employment like the Indians going to Iraq and Afghanistan as US Army Contractor forces in large numbers. Gorkhas have been soldiers all over, Singapore, Hongkong, Brunie, UK and India. The only problem Indian Army face is in comparison in pay and perks and consequently, the best recruitable lad goes somewhere else. The second problem will be compromising ground intelligence when one brother is in Indian Army and the other in PLA. But that can also be exploited by Indian intelligence agencies.. It would provide big opportunities for India to have deep assets inside PLA.

Another advantage is that if consumer purchasing power increases in Nepal it would help the Indian economy no matter what China does.. China can not pay less to Gorkhas. It means cost of holding Tibet will increase fo the Chinese.

Offering citizenship is a big no.... India should not fall in that trap.

Are you thinking on the lines of using Tibetan and Gurkha PLA soldiers against PLA like in Mukti Bahini And why no citizenship for Nepali soldiers..?

 

[Sehwag213]

India's main opposition party
No difference between Japanese PM and Chinese. Tweet deleted after heavy abuse .

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Surrender disguised as Victory?

"SOME progress made earlier" .. means there has been zero recent progress...

 

[Knowitall]

Surrender disguised as Victory?

Kya sandas hai yaar.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

 

[cereal killer]

Politically for GB it's now or never, I don't see any nationalist leader of such high approval anytime in the near or perhaps even distant future.

It doesn't matter with approval rating. This is straightaway about capability & how much support we're gonna get on it.
Actually since we have removed Article 370 just about a year ago any set of aggression can backfire as we may not get much support from US or Islamic world.
What I'd like to see is get 2-3 separitist guys from GB or from abroad or in exile just Idc get them to Parliament & grant them MP status won't be too difficult. At least show something to the world & try to build a narrative & not hollow statements. Apparently people outside India know that Pakistan claims Kashmir but they hardly know that we claim PoK or there is any such thing like it. That is because of our stupid policies.
Regarding capability that's where we have to keep building on. Taking Back GB will be a tough job. It's a huge place. In modern times taking a mountain or two is a tough job that we found out in Kargil & we are talking about thousand of KMS of area with numerous peaks & poor logistics with well positioned enemy.
Public sentiment may not be good too.

But at least start toh karo. Why not talk about GB & Balochistan in UNGA? It is easy to keep domestic audience happy with hollow statements. Just like Pakistanis do when they talk about Kashmir in front of their own people.
But they make sure we have to answer everything on Kashmir in global arena but we don't do that to them. Always on the backfoot. Trying to defend everything. In modern world Narrative building is crucial & we suck at it.

 

[Knowitall]

To dijiye na tabse intezaar kar rahe hai de dijiye ab.

 

[DownWithCCP]

To dijiye na tabse intezaar kar rahe hai de dijiye ab.

Your statement reminded me of that kejriwal meme

 

[Knowitall]

Your statement reminded me of that kejriwal meme

Ha ye hi soch kar bola tha

 

[Shashank Nayak]

To dijiye na tabse intezaar kar rahe hai de dijiye ab.

This is what PLA is going to do when Indian Army finally shows up

 

[Blue Water Navy]

India's main opposition party
No difference between Japanese PM and Chinese. Tweet deleted after heavy abuse .

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I fell literally from my chair after seeing this.

WTF is Congress trying to do??huh??? Give people heart attack or make them laugh to death.


@Sehwag213 Pappu ko Chota Bheem dekhne ki jaldi thee.

 

[mattster]

Why do Indian leaders regardless of which party it is, always talk down to the Indian people. They must think that the average Indian is a complete bozo who will believe their crap.

India is not capable of giving a befitting reply to either China or Pakistan.

if Pakistan thought that India was capable of giving a terrifying befitting response, then they would have never launched the Mumbai attacks, or bombed the Indian Embassy in Kabul, or conducted any of the hundreds of attacks of they launched against India for the last 40 years.

Likewise, if China was afraid of India's response - they would have never tried the Galwan Valley stunt. They would not even have dared to come near the LAC. The fact they they occupy miles of Indian territory with impunity means that they simply dont care about the Babu's so-called "befitting reply".

Its time Indian leaders, government, and MOD got their heads out of their asses, and realized that if they want to avoid a full-blown border war with China or Pak - then the only way to avoid it is to seriously prepare the military capability, and bring the will to fight an all out border war with China or Pak. Nobody is going to use nukes in a border war - that's a bogey. India will have to show that it can extract major losses from both Pak and China and is not afraid of escalating it into a full-blown war.

Its only when they see that India is fully capable of prosecuting a full-blown border war and extracting massive casualties on their side that these 2 freaking countries will stop fucking with India.

Given India's horribly inefficient government bureaucracy, red-tape, and incompetence - its impossible to see how India's military can overcome all these hurdles.