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Looks like if India is planning to answer the China question, should also be ready for Russia question as well.
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At a China-Russia academic workshop today, a leading Chinese scholar suggested that Russia and China should complement their traditional cooperation on the Eurasian continent with the maritime dimension that encompasses three oceans - Arctic, Pacific, and Indian.

 

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Looks like if India is planning to answer the China question, should also be ready for Russia question as well.
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At a China-Russia academic workshop today, a leading Chinese scholar suggested that Russia and China should complement their traditional cooperation on the Eurasian continent with the maritime dimension that encompasses three oceans - Arctic, Pacific, and Indian.

Unless India moved into totally western block due to policy shift or situation demands otherwise we will see Russia balancing with both India and china tactically. They certainly wont prefer to see undisputed super power China on their border totally focused on the world
 

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Looks like if India is planning to answer the China question, should also be ready for Russia question as well.
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At a China-Russia academic workshop today, a leading Chinese scholar suggested that Russia and China should complement their traditional cooperation on the Eurasian continent with the maritime dimension that encompasses three oceans - Arctic, Pacific, and Indian.

These are all wet dreams. Chinese tried to sell IOR to USA before.

Trust: Russia do not trust China and will remain insecure with his oil reserves. Chinese designs of Silk route, Belt road or whatever they call it has an agenda of access to Russian and CA oil lanes. Russia vetoed access via TAPI for the very same reasons and increased its hold on access routes by annexing Crimea again for the very same reasons.

Russia’s long term game is to out stock USA. Chinese are small players in this game but with their consumption needs they want both Russia and USA become oil dry.

The only paradox here was Russians agreeing to supply Europe including Germany which would have added more multiples to lower Russian stock. But American insecurity trumped as they would never like Russia have any influence on her NATO allies.

Money: All those wet dreams require a lot of Capital. Russia is heavily sanctioned and being out spent on every front including their new ventures into war zones like Syria. Chinese have export based economy heavily dependent on Western world which USA commands. In my rough calculation to sustain such expansionist agenda both need half the military spending of USA to set things in motion and I am not including India who will throw a big greasy spanner with workman’s gloves into China’s IOR Peking duck dish.

Show me the money and I will see it plausible. I will be more worried with China pimping USA than Russia at this stage.
 
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Looks like if India is planning to answer the China question, should also be ready for Russia question as well.
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At a China-Russia academic workshop today, a leading Chinese scholar suggested that Russia and China should complement their traditional cooperation on the Eurasian continent with the maritime dimension that encompasses three oceans - Arctic, Pacific, and Indian.

There are no allies.
US is busy doing cloak and dagger bullshit, calling us allies while simultaneously undermining the elected govt through proxies.
Russian won't betray us because of some arcane regime change schemes, but because of economic dependence on China if push comes to shove.

There are still France and Israel to keep our supply of military equipment and ancillary items we may need, but they are minor players.

Being Atmanirbhar is the way forward.
Country has been pozzed long enough by greedy jernails, afsars and phoren maal lobbies.
and also the type of cuck congi lobby that prevented border infra development.
 

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These are all wet dreams. Chinese tried to sell IOR to USA before.

Trust: Russia do not trust China and will remain insecure with his oil reserves. Chinese designs of Silk route, Belt road or whatever they call it has an agenda of access to Russian and CA oil lanes. Russia vetoed access via TAPI for the very same reasons and increased its hold on access routs by annexing Crimea again for the very same reasons.

Russia’s long term game is to out stock USA. Chinese are small players in this game but with their consumption need and they want both Russia and USA become oil dry.

The only paradox here was Russians agreeing to supply Europe including Germany which would have added more multiples to lower Russian stock. But American insecurity trumped as they would never like Russia have any influence on her NATO allies.

Money: All those wet dreams require a lot of Capital. Russia is heavily sanctioned and being out spent on every front including their new ventures into war zones like Syria. Chinese have export based economy heavily dependent on Western world which USA commands. In my rough calculation to sustain such expansionist agenda both need half the military spending of USA to set things in motion and I am not including India who will throw a big greasy spanner with workman’s gloves into China’s IOR Peking duck dish.

Show me the money and I will see it plausible. I will be more worried with China pimping USA than Russia at this stage.
Yes lot of it is how it is but Russia does have 3 times the budget in purchase power due to most of it import free and all raw materials mostly domestic and most importantly state owned. They come at $70b give or take, but purchase power wise they are probably at around 250 billion dollars?
 

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Yes lot of it is how it is but Russia does have 3 times the budget in purchase power due to most of it import free and all raw materials mostly domestic. They come at $70 give or take, but purchase power wise they are probably at around 250 billion dollars?
Russia is sufficient to sustain its edge with or without sanction. But any expentionist misadventure on China’s instigation which also includes protecting sea trade lanes will require a lot of Capital and it can be destabilising. China is a cunning player. They do not play on law of diminishing returns. They will ditch Russia and will start looking for other powers or multiple powers to maintain their apparent aggressive military and diplomatic behaviour.
 

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Russia is sufficient to sustain its edge with or without sanction. But any expentionist misadventure on China’s instigation which also includes protecting sea trade lanes will require a lot of Capital and it can be destabilising. China is a cunning player. They do not play on law of diminishing returns. They will ditch Russia and will start looking for other powers or multiple powers to maintain their apparent aggressive military and diplomatic behaviour.
Agreed, but they will swoop in as soon as the situation permits....like they did in Japan at WW2 end or China at different times in history. They will weaken China by proxy, they have decades of experience as victim and aggressor playing these games.
 

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Agreed, but they will swoop in as soon as the situation permits....like they did in Japan at WW2 end or China at different times in history. They will weaken China by proxy, they have decades of experience as victim and aggressor playing these games.
These are long term predictions. History of nation or nation states is full of surprises, shifting alliances guided by national interests.
For short term predictions follow the money.
For long term predictions follow the geography. And interestingly, it is always neighbours fighting each other.
 

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Unless India moved into totally western block due to policy shift or situation demands otherwise we will see Russia balancing with both India and china tactically. They certainly wont prefer to see undisputed super power China on their border totally focused on the world
Well..what china is hoping is to PUSH india into the fold of USA..and USA has a habit of ensuring that NOBODY who is in the team USA grows when with USA. USA sort of make its team dependent on it for almost everything when it comes to power play.
Thats the natural character of USA.
 

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Well..what china is hoping is to PUSH india into the fold of USA..and USA has a habit of ensuring that NOBODY who is in the team USA grows when with USA. USA sort of make its team dependent on it for almost everything when it comes to power play.
Thats the natural character of USA.
Yes I hope Modi and team realize the American establishment and deep state and their generally accepted anti-India/hindu leanings....we just need to learn and take advantage of situations and countries as they run into inevitable crisis based on current world instability
 
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China Completes New Highway Near De Facto Border With India
The highway will enable the People’s Liberation Army to mobilize troops and military equipment faster overland to the Line of Actual Control.
 
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