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How do you know we are not doing it already?


So you are asking for a demonstration for our countrymen, not for PLA, right ?
I mean a self propagating video from armed forces itself just like PLA exhibit each exercise to the world & its adversaries. Information warfare simply saying we are ready for any misadventure.
 

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I mean a self propagating video from armed forces itself just like PLA exhibit each exercise to the world & its adversaries. Information warfare simply saying we are ready for any misadventure.
Yes, but we are not exactly ready :bplease: at least not in our best shape to fight China. GoI will go to any length to avoid war right now.
 

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Fighting flares in Myanmar town on Chinese border


A gunbattle erupted on Sunday between Myanmar security forces and an alliance of armed ethnic groups opposed to February’s coup, at a town on the border with China, Myanmar media said.
The fighting at Muse, one of the main crossing points to China, was the latest to hit Myanmar since the coup led to an upsurge of conflict with insurgent groups in border regions, as well as bombings, shootings and arson across the country.
Gunfire broke out in Muse around dawn, broadcaster DVB and Khit Thit Media said. Khit Thit Media published pictures of what it said were civilian vehicles that were peppered with bullet holes.

 

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Yes, but we are not exactly ready :bplease: at least not in our best shape to fight China. GoI will go to any length to avoid war right now.
its not just our politicans are coward but the entire decision makers are cowards. . they can not ever take hard decisions. the time to act was last year and modi chickened out. now until chinese try anything new , nothing will happen. we all know chinese will be back in some time , and the usual process will repeat again.
 

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its not just our politicans are coward but the entire decision makers are cowards. . they can not ever take hard decisions. the time to act was last year and modi chickened out. now until chinese try anything new , nothing will happen. we all know chinese will be back in some time , and the usual process will repeat again.
For that they'll have to leave first
 

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balls on the Asstralians to oppose their largest export customer like this

Now China believes that it has become sufficiently powerful to mess with every Nation including America. It is unnecessarily creating enemies and disputes across the world and with those Nations with whom it does not have even border. China is a new Gunda of civil world. It has to be dealt in the strictest manner. The best way to deal with China is to harm China economically. This is why action on companies like Huawie of China is a very right step in right direction. Other countries can do that and what India can do is that India can emerge as a substitute of China as the factory of the world. India should supply everything starting from pencil cell ,computer, electronic goods , heavy equipments, train sets , pessenger and fighter jets, satellite launch and everything which China can offer. It will be little bit hard to for Indians to beat China in the cost but with the availability of cheap electricity and incentive scheme like the government has launched recently , India can certainly be very competitive. India will always have an edge over China in quality.An environment has been created by Narendra Modi in 7 year and for a powerful launch of India's export. In my opinion, within 4 to 5 years India will imeege as a substitute of China and export from India will increased multiple time. Rakesh Junjunwala has rightly said that all structural changes have been made for a rapid growth and he foresee India growing at 10% for 2 decades starting from 2025. Record foreigh direction is flowing in. Indian companies are doing exceedingly well. Electricity supply is improving rapidly. Petrol is substituted by electric vehicle at a rapid rate. Dozens of electric scooters are launched. All this is going to put a big amount of money in the hand of middle class by the way of savings. Aging Chinese population and children grown in rich environment will not be able to hard work like their forefathers. Neither China has a strong education and research. China's downfall is inevitable. We just need a strong leadership for a decade. Like Russia fell in a way not forecasted by anyone when they were superpower, China will fall in a way not expected by anyone. Ee just need a decade to be at par with anybody and 2 decades to surpass all.

Just imagine one thing. When Vajpayee ji left, we were 10th economy in the world, One decade of PMship of Dr MM singh could not improve ranking but Modi bought it No 5. within next 5 years, ee shall be No 3. Things are changing fast.Those who still doubts the power of India will get convienced in coming 3 to 4 years.
 

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OIC was dominated by US lobby but china smartly infiltrated through aid, debt trap, grants etc.
That's why imrand use to say that he will breate new lobby of turkey, Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia and few African countries
 

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its not just our politicans are coward but the entire decision makers are cowards. . they can not ever take hard decisions. the time to act was last year and modi chickened out. now until chinese try anything new , nothing will happen. we all know chinese will be back in some time , and the usual process will repeat again.
Our people as in we are the biggest cowards, we get what we deserve. Raise your kids right, its a good first step for all of us.
 

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Now China believes that it has become sufficiently powerful to mess with every Nation including America. It is unnecessarily creating enemies and disputes across the world and with those Nations with whom it does not have even border. China is a new Gunda of civil world. It has to be dealt in the strictest manner. The best way to deal with China is to harm China economically. This is why action on companies like Huawie of China is a very right step in right direction. Other countries can do that and what India can do is that India can emerge as a substitute of China as the factory of the world. India should supply everything starting from pencil cell ,computer, electronic goods , heavy equipments, train sets , pessenger and fighter jets, satellite launch and everything which China can offer. It will be little bit hard to for Indians to beat China in the cost but with the availability of cheap electricity and incentive scheme like the government has launched recently , India can certainly be very competitive. India will always have an edge over China in quality.An environment has been created by Narendra Modi in 7 year and for a powerful launch of India's export. In my opinion, within 4 to 5 years India will imeege as a substitute of China and export from India will increased multiple time. Rakesh Junjunwala has rightly said that all structural changes have been made for a rapid growth and he foresee India growing at 10% for 2 decades starting from 2025. Record foreigh direction is flowing in. Indian companies are doing exceedingly well. Electricity supply is improving rapidly. Petrol is substituted by electric vehicle at a rapid rate. Dozens of electric scooters are launched. All this is going to put a big amount of money in the hand of middle class by the way of savings. Aging Chinese population and children grown in rich environment will not be able to hard work like their forefathers. Neither China has a strong education and research. China's downfall is inevitable. We just need a strong leadership for a decade. Like Russia fell in a way not forecasted by anyone when they were superpower, China will fall in a way not expected by anyone. Ee just need a decade to be at par with anybody and 2 decades to surpass all.

Just imagine one thing. When Vajpayee ji left, we were 10th economy in the world, One decade of PMship of Dr MM singh could not improve ranking but Modi bought it No 5. within next 5 years, ee shall be No 3. Things are changing fast.Those who still doubts the power of India will get convienced in coming 3 to 4 years.
It is perfect time for China to go on offensive and accelerate the demise of West and it was inevitable, west has brought it onto themselves. They are running on borrowed money and time.....as long as India plays smartly we can leverage the situation to our favor.
 

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Yes, but we are not exactly ready :bplease: at least not in our best shape to fight China. GoI will go to any length to avoid war right now.
It's not just "right now" it's forever, the gulf between them and us keeps on increasing by any absolute metric.
Of course you can relativize it in context of the Ladakh/AP because PLAN is out of the picture, Armor deployments will be relatively less considering the terrain, so there is mainly PLA troops, artillery and PLAAF to deal with, and it is a given that we won't face the full power of their Army/AF because a large portion have to be kept to defend their coastal core.
 

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Such a evil country.
Very dangerous. I think that we should make a big think tank network to study and predict the Chinese plans. I think world ignored the China and China took a big advantage of it. World community need a big comprehensive plan to evonomically check China , respond China against the mischief like covid and respond China for misadventure like cyber attack.
 

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It's not just "right now" it's forever, the gulf between them and us keeps on increasing by any absolute metric.
Of course you can relativize it in context of the Ladakh/AP because PLAN is out of the picture, Armor deployments will be relatively less considering the terrain, so there is mainly PLA troops, artillery and PLAAF to deal with, and it is a given that we won't face the full power of their Army/AF because a large portion have to be kept to defend their coastal core.
Well, it's not always forever. Pre-COVID or even last year, we were in a pretty good situation to handle China militarily than any time after 1962. The reason is a massive improvement of border infrastructure and growing economy, hence growing coffers to fight a war.

Wars are a very costly business, and it drains money like anything. Even after the first COVID wave, we were in a better position, but after this year's wave, all money is going towards saving lives, we are pretty crippled. The Indian population, in general, has become poorer.

We ought to have dealt a decisive swift military blow to China last year between June and October, but babus were scrambling to find their testicles during that time.
 

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Let him create lobby of clowns.
The arab nations was once a clown.. but they used the "OIL" to infiltrate and leverage their position.
The afican nations have resources and minerals..even oil with which they will leverage their position against other groupings.

African nations should be brought into fold with sheer diplomacy and cooperation.
 

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Minor face-off with Chinese troops in Galwan Valley
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There was a minor face-off between Indian and Chinese troops in the no-patrolling zone at Galwan Valley in Eastern Ladakh in the first week of May, a senior government official told The Hindu. However, no clash occurred and the two sides disengaged quickly.
A no-patrolling zone extending to around 3 kilometre, around 1.5 km each, on either side of the clash site near the Y-junction of the Galwan Valley, was created after the June 15, 2020 incident when 20 Indian army personnel were killed in violent clashes with the Chinese. A 30-day moratorium was also applied on foot-patrolling then. It was not known if it has been extended.


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It is perfect time for China to go on offensive and accelerate the demise of West and it was inevitable, west has brought it onto themselves. They are running on borrowed money and time.....as long as India plays smartly we can leverage the situation to our favor.
China's stupidity brings it more enemies than friends. Some of the enemies are substantial and difficult to maintain enemity with like India, US, France.
 

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Minor face-off with Chinese troops in Galwan Valley
Vijaita Singh

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There was a minor face-off between Indian and Chinese troops in the no-patrolling zone at Galwan Valley in Eastern Ladakh in the first week of May, a senior government official told The Hindu. However, no clash occurred and the two sides disengaged quickly.
A no-patrolling zone extending to around 3 kilometre, around 1.5 km each, on either side of the clash site near the Y-junction of the Galwan Valley, was created after the June 15, 2020 incident when 20 Indian army personnel were killed in violent clashes with the Chinese. A 30-day moratorium was also applied on foot-patrolling then. It was not known if it has been extended.

Warning- The hindu.
Believe it on your own risk.
 

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China's stupidity brings them more enemies than friends. Some of the enemies are substantial and difficult to maintain enemity with like India, US, France.
Ya, but I don't think they care now or historically. Their whole strategy is based on domination in a different way vs West. Now with increased and unforeseen power and growth they are clearly going into unchartered territory at global scale vs historical regional level....they will try not to get into shooting wars and do everything for the west to implode or occupied with artificial social issues that west created for itself
 

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Minor face-off with Chinese troops in Galwan Valley
Vijaita Singh

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There was a minor face-off between Indian and Chinese troops in the no-patrolling zone at Galwan Valley in Eastern Ladakh in the first week of May, a senior government official told The Hindu. However, no clash occurred and the two sides disengaged quickly.
A no-patrolling zone extending to around 3 kilometre, around 1.5 km each, on either side of the clash site near the Y-junction of the Galwan Valley, was created after the June 15, 2020 incident when 20 Indian army personnel were killed in violent clashes with the Chinese. A 30-day moratorium was also applied on foot-patrolling then. It was not known if it has been extended.

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